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Topic: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #140 on: September 24, 2018, 01:12:23 PM »
Quote from: Entropy on September 24, 2018, 12:16:40 PM
It's time Nebraska fans accept it and look for small steps rather than "if they run harder and puke more, they can beat OSU".   The locals are blinded by the past.
This is going to be difficult for the fanbase to accept...primarily because it does not have a realistic view of where the program really is. That's not a situation that is unique to Nebraska, but maybe its worse here than other places, IDK.  
This game has gotten some folks "woke" though, so that's progress. Others are doubling down on tried-and-true methods of consolation, namely blaming the staff for everything and engaging in sugar-high hyperbole. And, as always, we have the positions held by the various factions flipping...people that were excusing our coaches of fielding a defense with some of the worst stats in the nation three years ago now have zero tolerance for us being on the bottom in STs categories. 
IDK what the solution is. Maybe a year or two at actual rock-bottom will rid us of some fans that are admirably passionate, but whom we are probably better off without. 
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #141 on: September 24, 2018, 02:13:58 PM »
there have been a few references by Frost since he was hired to temper expectations, but since before the spring game he has been pumping sunshine and staying very positive.

I think he could have been a bit more realistic and been telling the media and fans this fall that there were going to be some struggles and bad losses along the path.

Oh well, he doesn't need to tell them know............ they've seen it first hand
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #142 on: September 24, 2018, 02:16:56 PM »
tough balance between calling something a transition year and keeping the guys motivated,... mostly upper classmen.    I get it.

I was told  that asst coaches in Lincoln were telling fans a realistic win expectation.... a number that was probably too high.   Now that was naïve and silly.   No need to do that.   There is going to be disappointment.  
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #143 on: September 24, 2018, 02:17:34 PM »
BTW, I was in Minneapolis over the weekend to watch the Vikings play like the Huskers

belated corngrats to Harbaugh and the Michigan fans on a solid performance against the Huskers

hopefully Frost can give you a better game in 2021
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #144 on: September 24, 2018, 02:18:40 PM »
Your Vikings knocked me out of my survivor pool - big money too
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #145 on: September 24, 2018, 02:20:17 PM »
Quote from: Entropy on September 24, 2018, 02:16:56 PM
tough balance between calling something a transition year and keeping the guys motivated,... mostly upper classmen.    I get it.

yup, I get it as well.  Especially for recruiting.
Needed the wins vs Akron and CU to keep things positive and build momentum to help when the games such as this Michigan game knocked the wind out of folks, but ya don't always get what you want.
Life is tough
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #146 on: September 24, 2018, 02:25:44 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on September 24, 2018, 02:18:40 PM
Your Vikings knocked me out of my survivor pool - big money too
LSU -20 cost me nearly $200
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #147 on: September 24, 2018, 07:29:29 PM »
Weird stat: Adrian Martinez's threw for 22 total yards and his longest pass was for 32 yards
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #148 on: September 24, 2018, 07:46:17 PM »
subtracting rushing yards from passing yards is weird
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #149 on: September 24, 2018, 08:04:31 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 24, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
subtracting rushing yards from passing yards is weird
I don't think that's the explanation, is it? I just figured his other 6 completions were forward passes for a net -10 yards.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2018, 08:41:05 PM »
sorry can't bring myself to rewatch that first half

busy watching the Steeler TE teach Bucs defenders that trying to tackle high is a bad idea
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #151 on: September 25, 2018, 02:57:13 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 24, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
subtracting rushing yards from passing yards is weird
No. You know what's weird? Subtracting sacks from rushing yards is weird. Sacks should go against the passing yardage total.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #152 on: September 26, 2018, 07:56:55 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 25, 2018, 02:57:13 PM
No. You know what's weird? Subtracting sacks from rushing yards is weird. Sacks should go against the passing yardage total.
I've always felt that way. It's weird for something that's negative and pass-related to go against the run game instead.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
« Reply #153 on: September 26, 2018, 08:02:46 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 25, 2018, 02:57:13 PM
No. You know what's weird? Subtracting sacks from rushing yards is weird. Sacks should go against the passing yardage total.
I get it from a logical perspective. The ball wasn't thrown, therefore it wasn't a pass, therefore it was a rush.
But at the same time, I understand that if it's a clear passing play, it was never intended as a rush, so therefore the lost yardage should go towards the passing game.
Which puts you in the difficult position of determining intent. Should every negative yardage play against a QB be a "sack"? I don't think so. A zone read where the QB keeps and loses 3 yards isn't a sack. A play where the QB drops back to throw, starts scrambling and clearly tries to run, but is stopped 3 yards behind the LOS is a sack, but wasn't it eventually an attempted run?
CFB has basically said that for their statistics purposes, any QB tackle where the ball wasn't thrown is a rush. I can't necessarily fault them for that. It's a clear rule, and then the rest of us can interpret the stats however we see fit knowing this.
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