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Topic: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #196 on: August 31, 2022, 08:09:14 AM »
If you don't have a new coach lined up, just save the $7.5 and move along, what's lost if you don't?  Nothing.

No interim coach would do better.  He could do worse.  Sure, if Urban Meyer calls up you eat it, otherwise, why change now?

Maybe you'd move with some other candidates like Aranda or Dabo or ... but to go interim?  No reason to do so IMHO.  And they don't appear to be moving.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #197 on: August 31, 2022, 08:14:20 AM »
Dave Aranda is a California boy. Bakersfield.

He knows that the UCLA job will be open sooner than later, and he knows UCLA is going B1G.

Much easier to recruit California from LA than it is from Lincoln.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2022, 08:38:58 AM »
Yeah, that's my point, I don't see anyone especially lining up to go to Lincoln who is an established coach.  They could hire someone relatively unknown, maybe even Fickle, maybe, maybe not.  But IF I couldn't get the guy I wanted NOW, I'd just wait for the $7.5.

I thought Harsin was gone at Auburn, but he wasn't, I think in large part because they are waiting for "their guy" to be available.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2022, 09:07:24 AM »
They thought Harsin was their guy.

There is always gonna be a guy.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #200 on: August 31, 2022, 09:08:48 AM »
Harsin only been there one year. This is year 5 for Frost, and he just got beat by Northwestern in his opener as a 14 point favorite.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #201 on: August 31, 2022, 09:19:07 AM »
So, why fire Frost NOW and put in an interim?  What do you gain?  (This presumes a top coach is not in waiting.)

I would probably keep him until I had a viable succession plan and not end up like Tennessee having to go with Choice # 8.

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« Reply #202 on: August 31, 2022, 09:20:00 AM »
So, why fire Frost NOW and put in an interim?  What do you gain?  (This presumes a top coach is not in waiting.)

I would probably keep him until I had a viable succession plan and not end up like Tennessee having to go with Choice # 8.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2022, 09:20:22 AM »
I thought it was Jon Gruden.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2022, 09:36:52 AM »
So, why fire Frost NOW and put in an interim?  What do you gain?  (This presumes a top coach is not in waiting.)
The only reason I can see to fire him before the deadline for the $7.5M other than wild hypotheticals is if the wheels obviously fall off and he just completely loses control of his staff and players.

I do think that is a realistic risk because the staff and players aren't stupid. They can read the speculation just like we can so a lot of them are going to realize that they need a personal exit strategy because the HC is extremely unlikely to be in Lincoln next year.
I would probably keep him until I had a viable succession plan and not end up like Tennessee having to go with Choice # 8.
I frankly think that having a viable plan in this situation is overrated. IMHO hiring a coach involves a lot of luck and there aren't any sure-fire choices. Thus, on some level, getting it right can simply be an issue of volume. Ie, keep trying and you are bound to get it right eventually. At this point it is abundantly clear that Frost is NOT the right guy. Conversely, there is a non-zero chance that Nebraska's #8 (or #38) choice actually IS the right guy. For that reason, I think Nebraska would be better off with choice #8 (or #38) than with Frost.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #205 on: August 31, 2022, 10:32:11 AM »
They could go with Whipple to coach the rest of the year, or would that cause a Ripple Effect and make things worse?

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #206 on: August 31, 2022, 10:38:51 AM »
I also think it's pretty clear he was not on board with bringing in an OC.  A lot of speculation that the onside kick was him trying to inject himself, not liking how hands off he was during the game.  Then throwing his offense under the bus after the game for not being creative enough, when his defense got shredded, and Northwestern didn't even pass the ball once in the final 12 minutes

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2022, 10:48:37 AM »

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #208 on: August 31, 2022, 10:49:17 AM »
I thought it was Jon Gruden.

It damn sure wasn't going to be Greg Schiano.  ;)

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #209 on: August 31, 2022, 10:52:58 AM »
I also think it's pretty clear he was not on board with bringing in an OC.  A lot of speculation that the onside kick was him trying to inject himself, not liking how hands off he was during the game.  Then throwing his offense under the bus after the game for not being creative enough, when his defense got shredded, and Northwestern didn't even pass the ball once in the final 12 minutes

Not defending Frost by any means....

But, it seems like a head coach would always make the final call, or at least rubber stamp, an onside kick call.

I doubt any OC has carte blanche on that type of call.

 

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