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Topic: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2022, 11:03:47 PM »

I'm dumbfounded that anyone would think UNL will settle for mediocrity
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15-29 overall record
10-25 conf record

What would you call it?  Promise?  UNL kept a HC with that record.  
Maybe you guys are too close and are blinded by it.

Nebraska fired Frank Solich for going 58-19 overall and 33-15 in conference.
Keeping the .341 win% twenty years after firing the .753 win%.

That's accepting mediocrity, friend.  It just blatantly is.  And I think that phrasing is even being kind, yet you still push back on it.  FLABBERGASTED.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2022, 11:22:14 PM »
Frost was a helluva player for Nebraska.  Loyalty runs deep there, and I can't help but hope they have given him opportunity beyond what they should have.  I understand and respect that... if that had been anyone else they'd have been shown the door, by my reckoning. 

He did damn well in Florida.  What's the difference?  His competition stiffened but so did his pick of the litter... taking coaches from Jr ranks who are solid is about a 50/50 shot to begin with by my observation, and taking the home town hero, if he fails, sets up a tough situation... he's quite the mess for them to manage... before we bash the AD, just consider the hire... and hope they've learned their lesson...

Back when they fired solich I thought to myself "they have effed up and they'll go through a couple years downtime "... boy was I wrong... then, I thought, "they are the poster child for how NOT to do it" when trying to rebuild.. then what happened? MY boys said "hold my beer"..

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #86 on: August 27, 2022, 11:37:05 PM »
SMH
15-29 overall record
10-25 conf record

What would you call it?  Promise?  UNL kept a HC with that record. 
Maybe you guys are too close and are blinded by it.

Nebraska fired Frank Solich for going 58-19 overall and 33-15 in conference.
Keeping the .341 win% twenty years after firing the .753 win%.

That's accepting mediocrity, friend.  It just blatantly is.  And I think that phrasing is even being kind, yet you still push back on it.  FLABBERGASTED.
Changing the entire identity on the heels of solich was the eff up in my opinion.  Nebraska was known for triple option.  For players of that flavor, which there were many, going to Nebraska was the fabled brass ring. 

Why they brought in a west coast offense and seriously made an attempt to implement it over a team built totally different is beyond the understanding of any student of the game.  Its just.... dumb. 

While they fiddled with such, the game moved on... those players aiming for triple option found other paths, which became roads and then highways- all leading away from Nebraska.  This is my opinion only.  Nebraska was shocked into a total lack of identity. 

At such time, a coach like Steve Logan should have been tapped... because he would win? No... because he would use what was at hand to compete the best he could and without allegiance to a system.  That's how Logan made his mark.  There are more like him and some far better, he's just the one who came to mind just now... he would run a shotgun wide system one season just to go back to triple option the next, and then playaction the next... its what he had access too... and the intent was to quietly build for the system he wanted all the while- the type of transition takes likely five years..... and yes, after coach C was done gutting Nebraska of the corn fed behemoths,  this- in my opinion- was their best option...

Id like to see then wake up thr triple option again.  I'd like to see those players across the nation, especially in small school systems who still run it, point an azimuth toward Lincoln and blaze a trail... that becomes a road... amd turns into a highway... and along with it big red becoming a power to be concerned about... CFB is better with Nebraska being good... Nebraska being good is about being different than the trending systems.  Some fool up there needs to remind them of that by my reckoning. 

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #87 on: August 28, 2022, 01:21:40 AM »
Frost just doesn't seem to understand what it takes to win in the Big Ten.  Seems to me that he came to Nebraska thinking he was going to replicate what he did in the AAC at UCF.....and just outscore everyone.  Can't play that way.  Need to have a good defense and a good running attack.  

28 points was enough to win that game.....yet he criticised the offense.  Forget the fact that the defense was giving up huge chunk yards on pretty simple plays.  The defense made NW's below average offense look good.

Then there's the onsides kick.  Just brutal decision making there.  There's a reason why Nebraska continuously loses one score games.....and games that they hold double digits leads in regularly.  It's not bad luck.  It's the Frost effect.


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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #88 on: August 28, 2022, 10:29:58 AM »
That's accepting mediocrity, friend.  It just blatantly is.  And I think that phrasing is even being kind, yet you still push back on it.  FLABBERGASTED.
Coaches

Frost, Scott 2018 - 0.341

Riley, Mike 2015 - 2017 - 0.500

Pelini, Bo 2008 - 2014 - .713

Callahan, Bill 2004 - 2007 - 0.551

Solich, Frank 1998 - 2003 -0.753

Athletic Directors

Trev Alberts

Bill Moos

Shawn Eichorst

Tom Osborne

Steve Pederson

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acceptance????

have they kept a guy a season or two too long?  perhaps
have they fired a guy a season too soon?  maybe

have they accepted that 8-9 win seasons is enough?  No


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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #89 on: August 28, 2022, 11:04:39 AM »
28 points was enough to win that game.....yet he criticised the offense.  Forget the fact that the defense was giving up huge chunk yards on pretty simple plays.  The defense made NW's below average offense look good.

There's backstory there. His AD made him hire a new OC, in essence taking away the thing he's theoretically good at. I think the AD might have picked the OC? Maybe? Either way, the narrative I heard in preseason was "Now Frost can bounce around and help anywhere, maybe even encourage the defense on the sidelines."

It took a whole game for him to not be able to hide anger at the arrangement. So you can see a lot of normal healthy program stuff going on there. 

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #90 on: August 28, 2022, 11:06:42 AM »
May be an image of 2 people and text that says 'If the whole season is going to be like this we are gonna need a lot more beer! NEBRASKA'
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #91 on: August 28, 2022, 11:37:37 AM »
When Nebraska battles Indiana on Oct. 1, Frost’s buyout would be split in half from $15 million to $7.5 million — something every Cornhuskers fan is going to have in mind, especially after Saturday’s heartbreaking season opening loss against Northwestern.

The addendum to Frost’s contract is enacted on Oct. 1, but runs all the way through Dec. 31, 2026 (365 days before his deal is up).

During the same four-year period — Oct. 1, 2022 through Dec. 31, 2026 — if Frost resigns, he’ll be forced to pay “liquidated damages” to the university. Those damages include $2.5 million and $1.25 million, “on a prorated basis for each remaining year of the Contract of Employment,” though will not be forced to pay anything if his resignation came at any point during the 2027 calendar year.
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2022, 11:40:30 AM »
Given he's a fan himself, maybe he will negotiate a departure with the school.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2022, 12:01:42 PM »
yup, if he doesn't beat the Sooners and all other teams including the Hoosiers, he's gonna take his 7.5 million

if Trev and the powers find the coach they want before Oct. 1st, Frost could step down for something less than $15 million, it's doubtful

there may be a booster of substance that is willing to pay the extra 7.5 million this week to move on immediately
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2022, 12:09:16 PM »
May be an image of 2 people and text that says 'Yuballwbac was said Nebraska football Aw hell Ricky I was high when I said that'
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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2022, 12:15:38 PM »
I think he might well take less.  I may be putting myself in his shoes.  If I was HC at UGA, I'd work out some deal for less so as not to harm the program.

But he's young and likely not very employable in his profession.

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Re: Nebraska (0-1, 0-1) vs. Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) Post Game
« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2022, 12:25:18 PM »
DUBLIN — As thrilling as the Nebraska-Northwestern football game might have been, the rarest of occurrences kept hundreds — perhaps even thousands — of fans in the concession concourses.

Free beer. Free food, too. All of it, free. A stadium, just giving it away.

“The tills are down and we can’t take cash,” an Aviva Stadium concession worker said to the World-Herald. The tills, in this case, were small credit card machines that didn’t have Wi-Fi connection.

So the beer flowed. Generally a person got as many as he or she could carry in a cardboard drink carrier. One man carried seven. Most tried to get four.

Across the concourse, fans got as many cups of fries — chips — as they could, plus big hot dogs, too.

“Nothing is free in Ireland — but this is!” said Stephen Cleary a Dubliner wearing an Odell Beckham, Jr. shirt.
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