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Gigem

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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2023, 11:18:10 AM »
Heck, I’d almost say if a student athlete kept a good enough GPA and had an excellent record let ‘em have a 6th year. Why should we limit their playing time when many do spend more time in grad school etc. 
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2023, 01:53:12 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 09, 2023, 10:23:33 AM
As a fan of one of those teams that could never win an NC... We knew that. There was no delusion about it. But there was more to the sport than winning an NC.

As I said before, the NC wasn't even in our thoughts as a Purdue fan. The hierarchy stopped one step short of that.

What we wanted pretty much in order:

  • Beat IU
  • Beat Notre Dame (we used to play them annually)
  • Become bowl eligible so we can go SOMEWHERE in the post-season
  • Be better than .500 in conference
  • Win enough games to make a decent bowl. You know, somewhere nice. With sun and warmth and palm trees.
  • Somehow win enough games to sneak in and win the Big Ten championship, probably relying on a tiebreaker, but we'll take it!
  • Go to the Rose Bowl

Notice the next steps, of "go undefeated" and "be crowned MNC" weren't even there.


We KNEW we weren't NC material. But there was dignity and fun in the college football landscape as it was. It wasn't "suckitude". It was the understanding that there are other things to play for than an NC.

I wasn't writing as a fan of one of those programs.  Your reality is accurate because it's your program.
I'm talking about everyone who acted as if the big fat lie wasn't a thing.  
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2023, 02:27:31 PM »
A potential plus from the "haves" breaking off onto their own, with autonomy and freedom, is that they can "fix" the alignment of the conferences and format for a postseason.
This would only happen with someone in charge, and with an eye towards prudence, lol.

If we could have 40 programs, all on actual equal footing, this is easy.  No more big, fat lie.
Keeping in mind they're all under one umbrella, conference affiliation doesn't truly matter, but becomes a framework under traditional nomenclature. 
40 schools
4 conferences
10 teams ea
9 conf games (everyone plays everyone else in-conf)
3 ooc
conf champs make playoff
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some options:
ooc games don't "matter," but allow for diverse strategy:  battle-test your team or get 3 freebie wins and have backups get PT
playoff could be seeded or have two pairs of conf champs always face each other (ACC vs SEC, XII vs B1G in the RB or something)
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It's so easy, it'll never happen.
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2023, 02:30:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 10, 2023, 02:27:31 PM
A potential plus from the "haves" breaking off onto their own, with autonomy and freedom, is that they can "fix" the alignment of the conferences and format for a postseason.
This would only happy with someone in charge, and with an eye towards prudence, lol.


Keeping in mind they're all under one umbrella, conference affiliation doesn't truly matter, but becomes a framework under traditional nomenclature. 
yup, one TV contract 
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2023, 04:11:22 PM »
Looking at the top revenue athletic programs, Purdue is actually 37th.  If I want the top 40, and include private football schools Miami, ND, and USC, then Purdue is the 40th team.  Indiana is comfortably in, as well.
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PAC-10:  UW, UO, Cal, USC, AU, ASU, Utah, Neb, KU, OU
BIG TEN:  MN, UW, ILL, ND, IU, PU, OSU, UM, MSU, Iowa
SEC:  Tex, A&M, Ark, LSU, OM, Bama, TN, Aub, UGA, UF
EAST 10:  PSU, UK, UL, UVA, UNC, Clem, USCe, Miami, FSU

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Sorry, Mizzou, UK, UL - you're in no-man's land.
Sorry Neb, KU, OU, Texas teams, there's not enough teams out west
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Everyone plays everyone else in the conference.  Head-2-head breaks a tie.  For 3-way ties, they play rock-scissors-paper.
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2023, 07:26:49 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 10, 2023, 04:11:22 PM
Looking at the top revenue athletic programs, Purdue is actually 37th.  If I want the top 40, and include private football schools Miami, ND, and USC, then Purdue is the 40th team.  Indiana is comfortably in, as well.
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PAC-10:  UW, UO, Cal, USC, AU, ASU, Utah, Neb, KU, OU
BIG TEN:  MN, UW, ILL, ND, IU, PU, OSU, UM, MSU, Iowa
SEC:  Tex, A&M, Ark, LSU, OM, Bama, TN, Aub, UGA, UF
EAST 10:  PSU, UK, UL, UVA, UNC, Clem, USCe, Miami, FSU

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Sorry, Mizzou, UK, UL - you're in no-man's land.
Sorry Neb, KU, OU, Texas teams, there's not enough teams out west
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Everyone plays everyone else in the conference.  Head-2-head breaks a tie.  For 3-way ties, they play rock-scissors-paper.
I think out of 40 programs only 20-30 would be real contenders. 

Need an SWC in there for Ark, Tex, and A&M. 
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2023, 07:31:42 AM »
It's a bit odd in a way that programs have been migrating into FBS from FCS over the past years, but in the deep past, programs migrated OUT (Ivy League).  Maybe this was because they had plenty of money and of course TV was a nonfactor then.  Today, I don't think there is any incentive for programs to migrate OUT, they'd end up losing probably in every case.

But, in theory, that could be a path forward.  In theory, heh.

It's just kind of a shame that the "New Mexico States" of the world get paid a million bucks plus to get pounded on by some SEC Blue Blood.......
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2023, 08:12:05 AM »
Programs Admn's make out - the actual student-athletes are sacrificial lambs but get an atta boy so it's all good ::)
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2023, 08:44:00 AM »
This is a depressing thread ....
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2023, 08:48:06 AM »
have another cup of joe

back in the day, the Huskers played the YMCA of Omaha
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2023, 05:16:16 PM »
What he's doing is trying to keep the NCAA intact so that they don't have their March cash cow blown up.
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Re: NCAA Prez Proposal
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2023, 05:24:40 PM »
If your kansas and 40 schools break off... are you voting to allow those 40 to play in NCAA baseball and basketball tournaments?   The leave-behinds should have some pride... jmo
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