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Topic: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"

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MrNubbz

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2020, 10:44:33 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 14, 2020, 10:40:17 PM
FSU was another good story, just a few decades earlier

more respect for Bowden, cause he traveled to the helmets and beat them
Had problems with the Canes
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2020, 10:46:22 PM »
Had problems with kickers.

Bowden, too, yes, but his situation was different in that FSU was independent and he was knee-deep in nearby talent.  
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« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2020, 10:48:30 PM »
very different in how he gained respect as well

that also helped him recruit nearby talent
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2020, 01:44:32 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 14, 2020, 10:29:21 PM
Wisconsin and K-State should inspire all of the non-helmets across the country.  You can go 12-1.  You can matter.  You can win. 
Fleck has about another decade to go before he's on Alvarez or Snyder status, but yes, Minnesota starting 8-0 AND winning their first test against a big-boy team (PSU) is a big step towards their ultimate goal. 


I'm not imagining Minnesota can't do it. But one year is just that, one year. IU fans thought they had a big step with Zook, Florida with Muschamp, Wisconsin in Year 1 with Bert before two years of disappointment. Maybe it is step one to becoming Wisconsin, but there have been a lot of false steps before.

And Wisconsin's continued success isn't guaranteed. Nothing is. But they have a good coach, and some talent, and I'll just hope that's enough. 
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2020, 10:05:16 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 14, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
If there's one thing I've learned through all this, it's the conversations of "just wait" rarely end with what's being waited for.

I think PJ is a pretty good coach, even if his style can be mockable. I kind of enjoy it. The proving he can beat them in Madison part, I don't know if there's much meaning to take from it. Minnesota had an OK team. Wisconsin had an OK team. One OK team won and got its bowl game. I think he'll make them better, and maybe if by pre-Barry days, the rivalry will be closer to even, perhaps that's the case.

Which 20 years are you referring to in that middle sentence?
i guess its like 25 years from Whacker to mason and brewster and kill and claeys years


there's a problem when you change Head Coaches a lot and your admin goes on the cheap and doesn't support the football program,  same as with any school

I think Fleck is here to stay and I hope I am right .  He is not right for the NFL, not sure his motivation would work there.  and yes other schools might come calling.  the question will be if the Admin will continue to pay what they need to to keep a good coach or revert back to a Whacker or Kill type hire
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2020, 01:44:12 PM »
for many up & coming coaches, it's not about $$$

It's about landing a spot where the recruiting is good enough to play for conference and national titles and put you name in the national history books
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« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2020, 01:44:33 PM »
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2020, 01:59:22 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on July 14, 2020, 03:14:36 PM
haters hate and you are a hater

the beatings will not be like the 20 years when we had the worst teams in the history of our program

keep thinking like you do and your pre Barry days are not too far from returning
As if anything I think is gonna matter to the Wisconsin Football Program.

I laughed. Thanks.

The beatings will continue. Need another 14 year streak.

And yeah, which 20 years are you talking about? Because, I'm 53 and I've only been alive for one Minnesota championship. I was not quite 1 then, so I don't remember it.
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