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Topic: Michigan State (3-5, 5-6) at Rutgers (0-8, 2-9) Post Game

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Michigan State (3-5, 5-6) at Rutgers (0-8, 2-9) Post Game
« on: November 19, 2019, 01:06:54 PM »
I can't believe it's already Tuesday afternoon, and nobody else has started this!

I also can't believe MSU is a 3 touchdown favorite against anyone at this point.  I'm legitimately nervous for this one.  It's on the road, and Rutgers actually showed some offensive fight against Ohio State.  It seems like they are at least playing hard for Nunzio, compared to Ash.  At this point, I'm not sure if MSU has any fight left.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2019, 08:43:13 PM »
It "could" happen. But I don't think that it will.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2019, 11:23:22 PM »
I know last year's game was close, but this is the worst that Rutgers has been since joining the BigTen. Yes, they beat Liberty (and Massachusetts, which is the second worst FBS team to Akron), but that's still not saying much, and none of their losses have been remotely close unlike previous years.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2019, 07:06:46 AM »
If the Scarlet Knights can put 21 on the Scarlet and Grey you'de think they could have some success against Sparty.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2019, 10:54:44 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 20, 2019, 07:06:46 AM
If the Scarlet Knights can put 21 on the Scarlet and Grey you'de think they could have some success against Sparty.
I'd agree if the Scarlet Knights has achieved anything substantial against Ohio State's starters but they really didn't.  Their first TD came on a short drive after a muffed punt and their last two came against Ohio State's cheerleaders and water boys long after the game was decided.  

Rutgers had a total of about 230 yards of offense but well over half of that came starting after it was 49-7 late in the third quarter.  
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2019, 12:15:37 PM »


Michigan State Spartans (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers Scarlet Knights (0-7, 2-8)
NOON - Piscataway, NJ - FS1
Both teams got blown out last weekend, but Rutgers showed some fight, while Michigan State showed none, at least none within the rules of the game.  Is that enough to overcome what should still be a fairly large talent discrepancy?  Michigan State is the only Big Ten school to never lose to Rutgers in either football or men's basketball, so I guess they still have that to play for.  Even sneaking into the Quick Lane Bowl, as awful as that would be, may not necessarily help, if there is going to be massive coaching changes, as those practices mean little.  Considering how many seniors this team has though, how many even bother playing in that game, so at least you get some younger kids some game run, against a team with a pulse (Florida State?).  Rutgers has at time given Michigan State fits in this game, including last year, when a similarly .500 Michigan State team needed a touchdown with 4 minutes left to hold off a similarly awful Rutgers team.  While last year Michigan State had an elite defense, and a horrific offense, this year they defense looked plenty good early, but has begun backsliding hard, while early season efforts against Arizona State and Northwestern look much less impressive at this point.  But what is lost in the slight improvement on offense, and slight regression on defense, is how the special teams has completely cratered, now ranked #111 in SP+.  The Spartans (#40) are actually the only team ranked that low in any of the three phases ranked anywhere in the top 50.  How much credit are we giving to Rutgers' fight though?  They tallied 14 points and 145 yards of offense against the Buckeye reserves, once down 49-7, with Ohio State having a 5 (hopefully for them) game gauntlet coming up.  Through the first 2.5 quarters, Rutgers had 7 points (on a 33 yard drive after a fumble) and 86 total yards of offense.  What they did do surprisingly well, was limit the Buckeyes rushing game, which had been leading the Big Ten at 6.5 ypc, holding them to "only" 4.9 ypc, and being the first team all year to hold Ohio State without a run of 20 or more yards, for what is the nation's most explosive run offense.  The Spartan offense has looked ok against the lesser Big Ten teams they've faced, averaging 35 ppg against Northwestern, Indiana and Illinois.  I think they can get about there again, and unlike Illinois, I'm not certain Rutgers can break 35, even if the Spartan defense continues to play uninspired.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 12:49:22 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 20, 2019, 10:54:44 AM
I'd agree if the Scarlet Knights has achieved anything substantial against Ohio State's starters but they really didn't.  Their first TD came on a short drive after a muffed punt and their last two came against Ohio State's cheerleaders and water boys long after the game was decided. 

Rutgers had a total of about 230 yards of offense but well over half of that came starting after it was 49-7 late in the third quarter. 
That's better than anyone else did against OSUs cheerleaders and water boys.
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Re: Michigan State (2-5, 4-6) at Rutgers (0-7, 2-8) Game Week
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2019, 03:25:49 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 20, 2019, 12:49:22 PM
That's better than anyone else did against OSUs cheerleaders and water boys.
IMHO, that just doesn't tell us very much.  Whether Ohio State gave up zero, one, two, or three TD's in any given game in which it was effectively decided before halftime is more a matter of random chance and what Ohio State's coaches decided to emphasize.  Ohio State is clearly in the CFP if they win out and the most important game for that goal is next week's opportunity to clinch a spot in the B1GCG.  One Ohio State achieved a five TD lead early in the second half the backups came in en mass.  At that point the goal was simply to get out of Picastaway with everyone healthy and ready for the PSU game.  
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Re: Michigan State (3-5, 5-6) at Rutgers (0-8, 2-9) Post Game
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2019, 08:01:34 PM »
Reminded me of the ASU game, just that Rutgers was so bad it didn't matter.  Moved at will between the 20s, and left so many points out there.  I believe MSU got inside the Rutgers 35 yard line on 8 of their first 9 possessions, yet it was only 20-0.  2 TDs, 2 FGs, a missed FG, a tipped interception in the end zone, and two failed 4th and 1s.
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