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MrNubbz

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Memorial Day
« on: May 25, 2025, 06:22:21 PM »




“Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in time that men have died to win them."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt”

“We do not know one promise these men made, one pledge they gave, one word they spoke; but we do know they summed up and perfected, by one supreme act, the highest virtues of men and citizens.” - James A. Garfield

"As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words but to live by them." - John F. Kennedy

"Although no sculptured marble should rise to their memory, nor engraved stone bear record of their deeds, yet will their remembrance be as lasting as the land they honored." - Daniel Webster

"If you want to thank a soldier. Be the kind of America worth fighting for" - Unkown


Almost everybody is born a genius and buried an idiot. - Charles Bukowski

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2025, 06:40:42 PM »
AMEN!!!!
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2025, 11:00:16 AM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2025, 11:15:39 AM »
More of a Veterans Day post to be exact, but below is a picture of myself, 20 years ago, on the day I shipped out to Air Force Basic Training in Texas. Bags packed at my feet, and waiting for a ride from the recruiter's office to the airport. A hot summer day across the Midwest. Only about 10 weeks past graduating high school. My distant expression captures the uncertainty and tension over what might come.

Next door was the Army recruiter's office; I was supposed to join the Army, but on the afternoon I had an appointment with the Army recruiter his office was locked; he wasn't there. The Air Force recruiter, seeing me standing there, waved me over and went over my Air Force options, namely that he could promise me more fitting work in computer networks and intel. So, after calling my Dad, I signed up that day.

After a four year enlistment that included three deployments to the Middle East (with redeployed stateside time at Pearl Harbor), I was glad to separate from the military and use the GI Bill at the University of Arizona. I'm proud of my time spent in the military, which became the de facto model for two of my brothers to join - one as an Army infantryman and the other as a Marine Corps Officer.

My Dad was proudest of all to have three sons sign up for the military. My Dad grew up "behind the iron curtain" in Poland before moving to the U.S. in the early 1980s, and always looked up to and appreciated the U.S. military for defeating Nazi Germany in WWII and facing down the USSR through the Cold War.

Thanks to those on here who served, especially the few Vietnam war vets who post on the Non-Moderated board...🎖️

To all who gave up much more than I did...🗽

And to those on here whose sons and daughters also signed up...🦅




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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2025, 02:53:37 PM »

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2025, 08:56:14 AM »
I don't really mind that it gets confused with Veteran's Day (and I certainly enjoyed the post above).  Some folks say "Don't say Happy Memorial Day", that too doesn't bother me.  It's nice when folks understand what it's about.  But it's bound to be confused, not to make a big deal over that, enjoy the three day fin de semain.

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2025, 08:57:39 AM »
most folks are cornfused most of the time
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2025, 03:58:58 PM »
Thanks to those on here who served, especially the few Vietnam war vets who post on the Non-Moderated board...🎖️
I want to say thank you to you and all who served and make a point that I think is important.  

When I say thank you to all who served, I mean "all".  I don't really care if you were were a rear-echelon guy in peacetime or a frontline combat soldier in wartime because, for the most part, that wasn't up to you.  

I got this sentiment from a guy I used to work with who was a WWII vet.  He had joined the Army immediately after HS Graduation and six months later he was at the outskirts of the Battle of the Bulge.  He was telling me once about his disagreement with the American Legion which, at the time, had a restriction on membership to veterans who had some combat or out of country time or some such.  Anyway his comment was that he hadn't fought the Germans in Belgium because he wanted to or signed up for it, it was because that was where they had sent him so he didn't hold it against a guy if that guy happened to be assigned maintaining jeeps at a base in Kansas.  The guy fixing jeeps in Kansas (with very few exceptions) was there because that was where the military sent him not because he was some kind of coward or shirker.  

I always say the same about my dad.  He was born in 1940 and served right after HS from 1958-1961.  That was almost exactly in the middle between Korea (ended in 1953) and Vietnam (heated up in 1964) so my dad (in his words) "played cops and robbers in the desert for three years."  I don't see that as any less because that wasn't his call it was just how the ball bounced.  

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2025, 05:06:17 PM »
Growing up we just put flowers on the relatives grave markers. I had no idea that there was a military connection to memorial day until they was an adult, and my father was even in the Army at some point.

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2025, 05:30:05 PM »
I wrote this a long time ago, but I update it annually, and most years I send it around to my colleagues just before the holiday weekend. Trigger warning, this will cut very close to home for some of the audience here, but I trust that it will be received in the spirit in which it is offered: a heartfelt note of remembrance:

    On Memorial Day

Years ago on my way to officer training as a 22-year old second lieutenant, freshly commissioned out of Army ROTC, I visited Washington, D.C., where I decided to spend a day at the west end of the Mall visiting memorials I was already familiar with. Standing in front of the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall, I noticed something new that summer day. As I paused to read some of the names, none of whom I knew, there I was, my reflection in each name etched in black granite. It made quite an impact on me as I prepared to enter active military service. Those 58,256 names were people just like me—just like all of us, really.

The Wall is a somber memorial to Americans lost in an unpopular war. More than a decade after that visit, I learned a friend of mine had lost his 19-year old son to an IED in Iraq. Another young man lost in another controversial war. Having opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, I struggled to come to grips with his loss. I still do. Ten years ago, just before this holiday weekend, a dear friend's husband lost his battle with demons brought home from Fallujah, leaving his wife and two young children behind. I think of that in military parlance: died of wounds received.

My wife's great uncle Teddy never came home from the Pacific, literally; he rests at the Punch Bowl National Cemetery on Oahu. His was a popular war, and everywhere in this country, his service, and that of his WWII brethren, is celebrated for its contribution to the world. Not so for those fifty eight thousand names on the Wall. Not so for my friend's son who would have turned 39 just a few weeks ago. But the purpose of Memorial Day is not celebration, it is reflection and remembrance.

The Marine killed on some non-descript island in the Pacific differed very little from the Soldier killed in Vietnam, or the Marine killed in Baghdad or Kandahar. They weren't war mongers, or pathological killers, nor were they sainted crusaders off to do Good. Each was a person like you or me doing what our messy democracy—We the People—asked him or her to do; each with family and friends who loved them and now dearly miss them.

Overlooking the Wall from his own memorial is Abraham Lincoln, who sent more young men to die for our country than any President before or since. He famously spoke of our honored dead giving “the last full measure of devotion” to their country. So they did; each of them, whether preserving the Union at Gettysburg, toppling pathological tyrants on the beaches of Normandy, or absorbing a crude explosive in Haditha, Iraq; and so too, those without memorials, servicemembers lost keeping us safe during peace time. As Lincoln to this day reminds us, We the People sent them, whether you or I or the various historians liked or approved of it; we did it together, and they and their families bore that burden for us.

Lincoln—or more likely his secretary John Hay—also wrote of the “solemn pride” a mother must have felt “to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.” The history of that letter is as messy as our democracy—a mess that doesn’t always make it easy to feel much pride. But channeling the words of Winston Churchill, another flawed defender of democracy, it’s better than the alternatives, and it’s still worth fighting for, so I pause this weekend to honor those who made that costly sacrifice for us, specifically: Private First Class Teddy Dulko, USMC, Specialist Tony Mauch, US Army, and Lance Corporal Chris Dyer, USMC.

Enjoy this Memorial Day and the beginning of summer—I surely will—but thank you for remembering what the holiday is for: our fellow Americans who left empty places at their families’ tables. Take just a moment to thank them for their sacrifice on our behalf and at our behest.

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2025, 09:03:10 PM »
Appreciate more than like.

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Re: Memorial Day
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2025, 09:28:47 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

 

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