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Topic: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #126 on: October 25, 2018, 05:36:50 PM »

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #127 on: October 25, 2018, 08:28:32 PM »
She's trying to make it up to the big leagues, and Dinich is her idol.

It's pretty interesting how her little sports rag, The Athletic, got some sort of scoop from disgruntled parents, isn't it?

No, these faceless and voiceless parents didn't go to a reputable source... They went to her.

She's also leaving out some information.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #128 on: October 25, 2018, 08:50:24 PM »
I'm not saying it's disqualifying for a coach, but let's at least focus on the content instead of the person reporting it.
Is that true about those videos? Drill bits going into eyeballs? Again, I am not saying that's disqualifying for Durkin. But unless it's untrue, it absolutely deserves a W-T-Fork.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #129 on: October 25, 2018, 11:30:04 PM »
She's trying to make it up to the big leagues, and Dinich is her idol.

It's pretty interesting how her little sports rag, The Athletic, got some sort of scoop from disgruntled parents, isn't it?

No, these faceless and voiceless parents didn't go to a reputable source... They went to her.

She's also leaving out some information.
MCW, I mean this as politely as I can, none of this is accurate. 
She was hired at a USA Today basketball writer out of college. She made it years ago. 
The Athletic is a venture of big-name sports writers hoping that good stories will be the basis of a sustainable economic model. It’s not being run well, but it’s bought plenty of reputation. 
That’s not a scoop from parents. That’s part of the report. No one went to her. 
She’s leaving out info because it’s a picture in a tweet. It’s literally just posting a small, weird part of the report to the internet.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #130 on: October 26, 2018, 01:14:18 AM »
The report is out. It says the culture is not toxic, but aspects were very troubling. I will not characterize further. Better to read for yourself, and decide. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25082150/investigation-maryland-program-shows-abuses-no-toxic-culture

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #131 on: October 26, 2018, 01:25:10 AM »
Anderson or Durkin or both "solicited and facilitated payment to a law firm to represent the accused players" regarding alleged sexual misconduct. They attempted to cover the $15,000 fee by calling it a "speaking engagement." Eventually, it was labeled an "eligibility consultation" so the university foundation could pay for it. (From the ESPN article linked above).

My unschooled thinking in these matters is, "The NCAA will be calling."

The NCAA will tolerate cars for the use of student athlete football players, but not this.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2018, 01:28:09 AM by Hawkinole »

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #132 on: October 26, 2018, 10:53:25 AM »
I'm not saying it's disqualifying for a coach, but let's at least focus on the content instead of the person reporting it.
Is that true about those videos? Drill bits going into eyeballs? Again, I am not saying that's disqualifying for Durkin. But unless it's untrue, it absolutely deserves a W-T-Fork.
They watched all kinds of movies, and Animal Planet.  Horror movies played, according to the report, and some players thought they were gross.  Whether it was some form of brainwashing or not can't be explained by the report.
The way they talk, it's like a Nine Inch Nail video all day everyday.
And yes, parents supposedly confronted this woman at the Athletic to tell them that their voices weren't being heard. They were going to do whatever they could to get Durkin fired.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #133 on: October 26, 2018, 12:20:58 PM »
They watched all kinds of movies, and Animal Planet.  Horror movies played, according to the report, and some players thought they were gross.  Whether it was some form of brainwashing or not can't be explained by the report.
The way they talk, it's like a Nine Inch Nail video all day everyday.
And yes, parents supposedly confronted this woman at the Athletic to tell them that their voices weren't being heard. They were going to do whatever they could to get Durkin fired.
All she is reporting here is what is directly from the University investigative report. She literally pulled copy from it and put it on Twitter. If there is an issue, it shouldn't rest with her, it should with the report completed by Maryland's investigators. 


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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2018, 12:31:48 PM »
MCW, I mean this as politely as I can, none of this is accurate.
She was hired at a USA Today basketball writer out of college. She made it years ago.
The Athletic is a venture of big-name sports writers hoping that good stories will be the basis of a sustainable economic model. It’s not being run well, but it’s bought plenty of reputation.
That’s not a scoop from parents. That’s part of the report. No one went to her.
She’s leaving out info because it’s a picture in a tweet. It’s literally just posting a small, weird part of the report to the internet.
Completely side tracking here BAB, but curious if you might expand upon your thoughts? Business side or content? I subscribed a few months back and have been very pleased with the content. There were a few fantastic writers they brought in locally in MSP and nationally in the sports I follow heavily. 
I've always struggled to see how they can turn a profit when you number crunch potential payroll + travel expenses around the country for beat writers. Even with the rumored membership base in the mid hundreds of thousands, it does not add up, especially at $3 - $5 a month. And, once you get past the die hards it seems it will be much harder to acquire more members. Unless they are in it for the really long game, awaiting the decimation of print media in a number of markets they serve. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2018, 05:22:38 PM »
Completely side tracking here BAB, but curious if you might expand upon your thoughts? Business side or content? I subscribed a few months back and have been very pleased with the content. There were a few fantastic writers they brought in locally in MSP and nationally in the sports I follow heavily.
I've always struggled to see how they can turn a profit when you number crunch potential payroll + travel expenses around the country for beat writers. Even with the rumored membership base in the mid hundreds of thousands, it does not add up, especially at $3 - $5 a month. And, once you get past the die hards it seems it will be much harder to acquire more members. Unless they are in it for the really long game, awaiting the decimation of print media in a number of markets they serve.
Just the payroll stuff you mentioned. They’re adding so much pricy talent. The best online stuff starts small and work outward.

Content is great and well worth the price 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #136 on: November 01, 2018, 12:13:38 AM »
Durkin is back in 10/30/18, per the Regents. Can you imagine how Maryland would recruit athletes when your opponents walk into a parent's home and show that an independent investigation showed Durkin was partially responsible for events leading to the death of someone's kid on his football team? A disaster was unfolding, complete with the constructive firing of the President of the university by the regents, which president agrees to submit his retirement effective June 2019 perhaps in deference to the regents, but next day, the retiring president fires the coach the Regents tried to keep on-board. The president determined it is the right thing to do for the university.

The regents chair showed leadership; not good leadership. The President, under enormous pressure consults with student government, university deans and the business community and within 24-hours he exercises moral leadership. I know Mcwterps may not agree, but Dr. Loh appears to have saner judgment.

I don't feel so bad for Dr. Loh. He will never find another job with greater responsibility than that he exercised since June 2018. If he wants to keep working in retirement, he will find better work, as he passed the leadership test under great stress. If he retires finally now, he does so with considerable honor.

If I were the governor of Maryland I might start looking at what can be done to change the make-up of the regents, but they may be insulated from recrimination. Their regents are volunteers led by a chair who seems to have found comfort in a hot seat. You can't always follow.
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Re: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.
« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2018, 05:40:00 AM »
So was Durkin fired for cause?  If not how much is this going to cost Maryland?

No cause, $5 million buyout.  Thats a lot of cash for them right now.  

Who do they get for the next head coach?
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 05:51:41 AM by Temp430 »
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Re: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.
« Reply #138 on: November 01, 2018, 06:51:53 AM »
Before joining the BIG Maryland Athletic Dept financially was on a slippery slope,so hopefully the Terps aren't eating a lot of it
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Re: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.
« Reply #139 on: November 01, 2018, 08:23:49 AM »
It's a hot mess in Maryland. Some players with strong feelings for Durkin and some players against.   Dr. Loh is out of there in June. 
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