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Topic: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game

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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #126 on: September 03, 2017, 09:29:35 AM »
It was a good win for the Big Ten. 

It looked like Michigan had their hands full, but then the Wolverines just buried them in the third quarter. 
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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #127 on: September 03, 2017, 04:20:08 PM »
It was a good win for the Big Ten.

It looked like Michigan had their hands full, but then the Wolverines just buried them in the third quarter.
at no point did I think Michigan had their hands full to be perfectly honest.
I thought Florida was very lucky to even be in that game. They were dominated in every facet of the game. I think the only edges they had was their punter was better than Michigan's and their QB's were far more careful throwing the football than Speight.
I think after Speight threw those 2 pick 6's and Harbaugh gave a couple series to O'Korn and then put Speight back in there he basically put the offense into shut-down mode. I don't think Harbaugh trusted Speight to do anything but throw short dump-off passes to his TE's, hand the ball off, or throw bombs off of play-action once the run game got going- because quite honestly that's all Speight can do. They ask him to throw the out routes, the fade, the slant, the hitch- he can't fricken do it- everything is behind, high, or way out of bounds. He hinders the offense greatly because all he's got is about 3 throws- the screen, the deep ball, and those short crossing routes to the TE's- that's literally all that bum has.

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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #128 on: September 03, 2017, 04:41:25 PM »
hate to say it- but losing De'Veon Smith might've been a blessing in disguise. Karran Higdon and Chris Evans both looked bigger, stronger. Ty Isaac looked like a senior who is hungry to prove to everyone why he was a 5* RB recruit out of HS. He ran harder and more decisive than ever, held onto the ball, and he actually protected the QB on blocking assignments! I think Ty is going to be the starter, and Evans and Higdon both will get their share of carries. All very different, all bring something different to the table, and all of them look like solid backs to me. This is an addition by subtraction.

They are loaded at TE. Losing Jake Butt sucks- but they have a ton of guys providing production- Nick Eubanks, Sean McKeon, Zach Gentry, Ian Bunting, and Ty Wheatley Jr all played a lot of minutes.

Very impressed with the safeties. Tyree Kinnel was active and all over the field, as was Josh Mettellus. Neither were really tested in pass coverage- but they both moved side-line to side-line and were in on a ton of tackles. Didn't see any bad angles to the ball carrier or missed tackles there- and Mettellus really hustled his ass to get off a block and hit Franks and stop him short of the first down and cause that fumble. That was a super impressive play for a young safety to me. He fought hard through a block and just hustled his ass to Franks to make the tackle.

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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #129 on: September 03, 2017, 07:39:33 PM »
UM fans might want to chill on their D being so great.  We don't know how bad Florida's offense actually is.  It may be dismal.  

It's one game, both ways, good and bad.
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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #130 on: September 03, 2017, 09:41:27 PM »
UM fans might want to chill on their D being so great.  We don't know how bad Florida's offense actually is.  It may be dismal.  

It's one game, both ways, good and bad.
call me naive, but I'm a big believer in that defense. Don Brown is about as good as it gets. They did what an elite defense should do to a team like Florida.

Both safeties played a lot of minutes last year- especially Kinnel- and they both looked great in run support and in diagnosing the short stuff and blowing that stuff up before there could be YAC. They weren't really tested deep in coverage- but neither had a horrible busted coverage that was noticeable on live tv- so hey at the very least there's that. Last thing you want to see out of the safeties is busted coverages that go for big TD's. There was none of that on that day.

Front 7 looked how I thought it would. LB Mike McCray, DL's Winvoich, Hurst, Mone, and Gary were all very productive last year. All of them looked like better players- which is what you'd expect with another year of S&C and a full year and another off-season in Don Brown's system. Less thinking- more reacting. Gary is still scratching the surface- he'll only get better- which is scary because he's already fricken ridiculously good- he's got the look of a guy who will be a very high NFL draft pick. We knew those guys would bring it- and they did. What surprised me was the play of the back-ups. Carlo Kemp, Lawrence Marshall, and 5* true frosh Aubrey Solomon all looked pretty dang good in the minutes they got. There wasn't a massive drop off when those guys came in and Winovich, Hurst, and Gary came out.

Doesn't get talked about enough- but Greg Mattison is a fricken steal to have as the DL coach. He could be a DC at a lot of other places. He is one of the best DL coaches in the country if not the best. Simply put the guy is just awesome at scouting, recruiting, and developing NFL defensive linemen. Just off the top of my head in his 2nd stint at Michigan since 2011 he's put out Frank Clark (2nd round- would've been 1st if not his off-field crap), Willie Henry (3rd round), Taco Charlton (1st round), Ryan Glasgow (4th round), Chris Wormley (3rd round)- and he's about to put out 4 more DL's into the NFL in Gary, Mone, Hurst, and Winovich.

LB's looked deep and athletic. Devin Bush, Noah Furbush, Devin Gil, and Khaleke Hudson all got a lot of minutes- and they all looked very athletic, active, and moved really well sideline to sideline. Bush looks like a star in the making. So does Khaleke Hudson.
The CB's weren't really tested all that much- but LaVert Hill showed some flashes. He showed really good coverage and made some big plays in run support. David Long was in and out of the line-up with a leg issue. When veteran Brandon Watson filled in for him he held his own. Don't think I saw true frosh Ambry Thomas in there. CB's to me are by far still the biggest unknown and really didn't answer anything for me this game.
Have to think this defense will only get better throughout the season as these guys gain experience.

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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #131 on: September 03, 2017, 09:48:25 PM »
Or do the exact opposite of what I suggested. lol  yeesh
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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #132 on: September 04, 2017, 09:23:16 AM »
nice win for Michigan

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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #133 on: September 04, 2017, 10:59:01 AM »
Michigan is a playoff contender.  The only team good enough to beat them between now and Penn State, is themselves.

That game could be for the division.  That defense is as good as last year, which is sick.  The offense is good enough and will get better.

What team did you see this weekend that could run away from them?  

Exactly!

It is week one.  
Not seeing it. Speight will cost his team the playoffs. Just like he did last year. That was a playoff team with even a Jake Rudock level QB who is mediocre and can manage games but won't cost you games.

I give Speight a lot of credit for playing with a broken collarbone on the road in the 2nd half against Iowa and against Ohio State in Columbus. He's a tough SOB. Won't ever deny him that. Unfortunately he's just not all that good at playing QB-and the kind of mistakes he makes don't just result in bad plays for his team- they lose his team games.

His last 4 starts he's thrown 6 interceptions- with 4 of them going the other way for touchdowns. Against FSU, Michigan was down 33-32 with about 25 seconds left and 2 TO's and he threw a ball way high and it was tipped for the INT. Game over. All he has to do is get the first down, not try to be a hero. First down stops the clock, leaves plenty of time to run up to the line and spike the ball, you have TWO timeouts- all you need is to get a couple first downs and get into FG range to give your team a shot to win the game. Not trying to be too hard and maybe that is nit-picking for sure- but a great QB is always aware of all situations.

He feasts on cupcakes and he's a tough kid, pretty solid pocket presence and feel for the rush, he's excellent at avoiding pressure, he's got an above average deep ball, but everything else a QB should have- he completely lacks.
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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #134 on: September 05, 2017, 08:17:42 AM »
Good:

OL and running game was effective but not dominate.  Ty Isaac is running the ball very well.  Well enough to be named the "starter" if there is such a thing on this team.  Freshman WRs are good.  Place kicker Nordin is special as advertised.  Linebackers and DL are very good.  CBs are serviceable but not up to the level of Lewis and Stribling which is fine considering.


Bad:  

Speight is easily rattled and Ulizio at RT is less than OK which is a scary combination.    


I don't think Michigan is a playoff contender at this time.  Just hoping they improve enough over the next few weeks to beat the Nitts on the road.
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Re: #11 Michigan (1-0) vs. #17 Florida (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #135 on: September 05, 2017, 02:01:57 PM »
Speight is a yo-yo. Drevno said 2 years ago about Rudduck: he never gets emotionally hijacked. Speight gets caught too many times hopping and jumping about his performance on the last play. I can get that emotional as I am a fan with the beer. I get nervous with my QB for not being close to level headed.

My advice to Speight: Let your teammates whoop to the heavens. You need to get ready for the next play.

 

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