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What kind of government would strike, using a non discrimitory weapon, a town of its citizens?  Is this a nation you'd willfully support? Or, is it a govt you support because of fear? 

Just the words leaving Bidens lips were tyrannical. The threat alone.  

It won't happen because more than half of the military are not on the governments "side".  They're on the side of those on either side of them and at home and all of us here... the gov power lusting twats in DC can "think" they own that Trump card, but they're absolutely equally eligible to find those components against them.  

The constitution got us where we were- assaulting it has got us where we are- its purpose is to limit goverent not grant rights to people.  Leave that alone and protect the 1A to keep comms open and the 2A to make that threat real, leave us alone from unlawful search and seizure and the following rights, and thos will ne er be a concern.  Try to take weapons away from a largely law abiding citizenry, and it won't end well.  

What kind of government would strike, using a non discrimitory weapon, a town of its citizens?  Is this a nation you'd willfully support? Or, is it a govt you support because of fear?

Just the words leaving Bidens lips were tyrannical. The threat alone. 

It won't happen because more than half of the military are not on the governments "side".  They're on the side of those on either side of them and at home and all of us here... the gov power lusting twats in DC can "think" they own that Trump card, but they're absolutely equally eligible to find those components against them. 

The constitution got us where we were- assaulting it has got us where we are- its purpose is to limit goverent not grant rights to people.  Leave that alone and protect the 1A to keep comms open and the 2A to make that threat real, leave us alone from unlawful search and seizure and the following rights, and thos will ne er be a concern.  Try to take weapons away from a largely law abiding citizenry, and it won't end well. 

Postwar South Korea military dictatorships have a long and sordid reputation for shooting their own populace.

And the unarmed populace (the number of gun owners in SK I keep seeing is 1 person in 500) drove off last week's coup attempt without a shot being fired. 

I thought they followed orders.....that's like the whole thing with the military. 

To a point.

If half, or likely many more, of the military is not on the side of the ruling party, it's very likely they would abandon orders and stage a coup, if ordered by the ruling party to stage mass killings of citizens with whom they side.

We can pray to God that this never happens in our country, as it has in so many others.

Well the gov't wouldn't decide on such a radical action unless those targeted did some radical law-breaking themselves. 
It's not like we're telling a private to go bomb his grand-pappy 'just because.'

Like some domestic terrorists speaking out at a school board meeting or something.

I thought they followed orders.....that's like the whole thing with the military. 

"lawful orders"... there have been times, in my presence, orders were returned to sender with a big EFF YOU... there have also been times, also in my presence, the order was lawful and though hugely unpopular- were carried out. 

there is zero absolutely zero reason for a government elected by the people to go after those people- none, ever- if they've got issue, they've done their jobs poorly representing and leading up to irrational and illegal actions.  they work for US; WE are not their 'subjects'.  it's a curious thing to see half the population here bend the knee to what they perceive as power.  eff that.  live free or die.

Hey stop that!!! When was that quote from 1807. Well at least that's the response i got when quoting Thomas Payne 😎

And maybe someday you'll spell his name correctly.

Drew, you sound like you're in the "F-around and find out" crowd.