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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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bayareabadger

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #826 on: August 22, 2018, 11:11:11 PM »
So from twitter at the moment, reporters are reading the report and tweeting out the eye-catching parts.

I was wrong. I thought OSU wouldn't dump a lot of truth. Some of the truth out there is embarrassing to say the least.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #827 on: August 22, 2018, 11:12:01 PM »
Maybe I am biased, but did Urban not come off as a 1st grader forced to write something on a chalk board? It was a series of run on sentences with his head down and a gun held up to him.
It looked like Urban Meyer was the hostage in a hostage video. No matter what he thought of the proceedings, he should have avoided the appearance of playing the part of the hostage forced to read a statement. 

Had they known how bad this press conference would go, I think Ohio State would only have brought out the university president, and left it at that. I thought Gene Smith comported himself as well as he could under the circumstances, but it would have been best to leave both him and Meyer out. The optics were horrible.
Ohio State could win a national championship and all could yet be forgotten, but with the suspension this press conference will stick in the collective memory for the next month of every Ohio State, (and Michigan) fan.

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« Reply #828 on: August 22, 2018, 11:17:42 PM »
may as well have not done an investigation or a press conference

just left it at Urban's comment at the Big Ten Media conference 

Zack Smith is a POS and he's been fired - end of story

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« Reply #829 on: August 22, 2018, 11:19:39 PM »
And that it took til today to POST THE ARREST REPORT HE HAD!
McMurphy is definitely playing his cards when it best suits HIM. I will say it’s interesting he actually had the report. A lot of folks were calling him a liar saying he made it up and no report existed.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #830 on: August 22, 2018, 11:24:52 PM »
An interesting nuance that came out in the investigation might explain why Urban is in trouble at all. 
Mary Jo White explained that (1) Gene told Urban about 2015 and (2) neither of themtold compliance. Ok, well we could ask, why was that Urban's responsibility at all, given that his superior was the one who told him in the first place. The lynchpin seems to be the wording that bridges (1) and (2): that they monitored the criminal investigation and discussed it for a series of months.
If it hadn't been for that, if instead they had only had one interaction about this with Gene relaying the info and then "get out of here, Urban, I'm taking over," I think Gene would have been fired for cause and Urban reinstated. But instead, the two of them went on to a phase of shared stewardship of the allegations. And both knew (and perhaps waffled over the fact that) Compliance was never called.
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SuperMario

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #831 on: August 22, 2018, 11:27:45 PM »
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« Reply #832 on: August 22, 2018, 11:29:40 PM »
He’s savvier covering his tracks with his public cell phone than Hugh Freeze, so he has that going for him.


https://twitter.com/danwolken/status/1032463262934282240?s=21
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 11:31:37 PM by HailHailMSP »

bayareabadger

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #833 on: August 22, 2018, 11:30:03 PM »
These revelations are many and seems sorta insane. 

Man Urbs was cool with letting Zach Smith slide. Also if I understand someone else's reading of it, Urbs talked about 2015 in the days leading up to Big Ten media days. Then did what he did. Then managed to flub the "what would you say to Courtney Smith" question someone had to know would come. Lordy. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #834 on: August 22, 2018, 11:33:46 PM »
Ick. That's an inflammatory thing that was certainly not part of the presser.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #835 on: August 22, 2018, 11:35:52 PM »
An interesting nuance that came out in the investigation might explain why Urban is in trouble at all.
Mary Jo White explained that (1) Gene told Urban about 2015 and (2) neither of themtold compliance. Ok, well we could ask, why was that Urban's responsibility at all, given that his superior was the one who told him in the first place. The lynchpin seems to be the wording that bridges (1) and (2): that they monitored the criminal investigation and discussed it for a series of months.
If it hadn't been for that, if instead they had only had one interaction about this with Gene relaying the info and then "get out of here, Urban, I'm taking over," I think Gene would have been fired for cause and Urban reinstated. But instead, the two of them went on to a phase of shared stewardship of the allegations. And both knew (and perhaps waffled over the fact that) Compliance was never called.
This.  I know everyone wants Urbans’s blood, but how does an AD at one of the nation’s most prominent sports colleges, not report this to compliance and still have a job?   
What am I missing. How does Drake/BOT not fire him immediately?
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #836 on: August 22, 2018, 11:37:26 PM »
It seems that the allegations of Zach's inappropriate relationship with a suborrdinate -- who was then transferred to a different department -- hasn't been addressed yet. 
I must admit I'm genuinely surprised (impressed with OSU's transparency!) we have this much inside detail. But now that we do, journalists (for whatever your opinions of them) are likely to find that staffer/subordinate.
And when that interview happens,.. it could be another (perhaps equally) big deal.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #837 on: August 22, 2018, 11:41:18 PM »
These revelations are many and seems sorta insane.

Man Urbs was cool with letting Zach Smith slide. Also if I understand someone else's reading of it, Urbs talked about 2015 in the days leading up to Big Ten media days. Then did what he did. Then managed to flub the "what would you say to Courtney Smith" question someone had to know would come. Lordy.
Personal guess: he didn’t flub that question. He feels no remorse for her, as he probably feels that she did as much or more physical abuse than Zack did, and she waited until the right time to go after the entire program due to her anger at Zack.  
In other words, he has probably heard and seen more evidence to suggest that she has some serious alcohol and emotional issues.  He is probably thinking, how did these two twisted idiots get me into this.  
Not saying I agree, or that is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me.  Clearly, he didn’t take the charges too seriously in terms of believing them, and that’s based on his conversations with the police, Zack, and others who knew them.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #838 on: August 22, 2018, 11:43:49 PM »
The investigative committee’s exact words. How did the B.O.T end up here?


https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1032469726558072832?s=21

I’m trying to decipher if I am reading The Onion?


https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1032466694265028608?s=21
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 11:46:13 PM by HailHailMSP »

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #839 on: August 22, 2018, 11:57:40 PM »
dude wiped his cell phone. consider me suspicious af.

 

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