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rolltidefan · « **Reply #798 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:36:54 PM »

Quote from: MaximumSam on August 22, 2018, 09:28:28 PM

I haven't seen it, but man, this seems really odd. I guess we'll see how things go down in the long haul (hopefully well!) but in the short view this seems like more of a cowtow to public pressure as opposed to being based in any sound principles or decisions.

For example, the report indicates both Smith and Meyer thought in good faith they didn't need to report because there was no arrest. However, Urban did report to his supervisor. It goes out of its way to say that if Urban thought there was domestic abuse he would have fired Smith.

I dunno, I'm strongly against weird half measures just to appease the public. That is definitely a result of working in criminal defense and seeing how people are treated as a result of that attitude. Right now, this seems like a weird half-measure to appease the public, as opposed to being based in any kind of principle or morality.

Well said I agree.

rolltidefan · « **Reply #799 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:39:16 PM »

Quote from: HailHailMSP on August 22, 2018, 09:22:41 PM

Maybe I am biased, but did Urban not come off as a 1st grader forced to write something on a chalk board? It was a series of run on sentences with his head down and a gun held up to him.

You’re not the only one. Definitely wanted to get through that as quickly as possible.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #800 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:42:13 PM »

I would have dug in had I been the coach, period.

SuperMario · « **Reply #801 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:43:16 PM »

Very interesting. Gene Smith stated he brought 2015 to Urban? Not the other way around? Also, Urban did not disclose the 2009 incident to Gene when 2015 came up.

I guess I’m confused what they were investigating then if this is the outcome.

HailHailMSP · « **Reply #802 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:43:47 PM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 22, 2018, 09:29:14 PM

Bye Felicia.
C U Next Time.

This is an AWFUL representation!! The CAPS aren’t so subliminal.

HailHailMSP · « **Reply #803 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:47:55 PM »

Quote from: SuperMario on August 22, 2018, 09:43:16 PM

Very interesting. Gene Smith stated he brought 2015 to Urban? Not the other way around? Also, Urban did not disclose the 2009 incident to Gene when 2015 came up.

I guess I’m confused what they were investigating then if this is the outcome.

That is where my head was spinning.
Meyer didn’t bring up 2009 to leaders when he brought Smith in to Ohio State. History then repeated itself. In any other organization they would say “what the hell were you thinking. See ya.”
And Smith didn’t report up in 2015. Once again, anywhere else, “What the hell were you thinking. Pack your bags.”

Cincydawg · « **Reply #804 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:49:34 PM »

This was very badly handled in my view.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #805 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:52:56 PM »

Not sure how I feel about this.

No doubt it is a bad look. I am not to worried about how it looks though.

Am I interpreting this right? Meyer and Gene Smith knew, and discussed the 2015 incident and decided not to report it to compliance?

The investigative committee did NOT conclude Meyer lied at Big Ten Media days?

So are we to think that the conclusion is both of their responsibilities?

So confused. If they feel it was his responsibility, why did he not get fired?

Seems like at least one of them, if not both, got off lightly.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #806 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:04:59 PM »

From the presser portion delivered by Mary Jo White (Investigator), these items were emphasized:

Meyer was aware of the allegations from 2015. He was informed of them by Gene Smith.
Both Urban and Gene regularly monitored the situation for a series of months and noted that it did not result in a law enforcement charges. However, they never reported this knowledge to Compliance.
"In the Domestic Violence context especially, there are many cases in which abuse takes place but there is no arrest or criminal prosecution and so simply relying on law enforcement to take action in the face of such allegations is not an adequate response.”
Meyer did not deliberately lie at Media Days. Investigators found that Urban did not fully recall in 2018 what he knew in 2015, and had been focused on overturning an erroneous felony arrest report (unspecified: McMurphy’s mistake) and was otherwise unprepared.
Meyer showed good respect for women and cooperation through the investigation
A number of instances of misconduct and other problematic conduct performed by Zach Smith while at OSU, some of which was known by Meyer and Smith and some of which was not.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #807 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 22, 2018, 09:52:56 PM

So confused. If they feel it was his responsibility, why did he not get fired?

Seems like at least one of them, if not both, got off lightly.

A lot of people feel that way. I'm just not sure, but maybe the shared blame got them both off easier than if the blame had been unshared.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #808 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:09:44 PM »

#6 above seems to be about the lewd stuff (White House pics, amazon orders, and sexual relationship with a football subordinate) that McMurphy reported this week.
It's not clear the extent to which that played into the punishment. But of everything listed (in the bulleted oral report), it seems Urban and Gene are only being punished for items #2 and #6.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #809 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:10:17 PM »

Roaddawg · « **Reply #810 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:14:20 PM »

Quote from: SuperMario on August 22, 2018, 09:43:16 PM

Very interesting. Gene Smith stated he brought 2015 to Urban? Not the other way around? Also, Urban did not disclose the 2009 incident to Gene when 2015 came up.

I guess I’m confused what they were investigating then if this is the outcome.

Shows me they did a piss poor background investigation, and for that I blame Gene Smith, considering it his job to make sure compliance is followed.

FearlessF · « **Reply #811 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:29:13 PM »

always figured it would come out this way or even less of a slap on the wrist

was hoping Urban would be been less guilty of not reporting, but he's not

Urban is Urban

Ohio State is protecting him because he wins games

BS, but we all knew this was coming

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