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MrNubbz

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #644 on: August 21, 2018, 06:45:04 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 20, 2018, 11:34:12 PM
Someone shared the screenshots with McMurphy last Friday.
I don't get it,as I said before if he's that ignorant that he was still sharing an account with his ex then he deserves everything he gets.I'm thinking that Zach  probably did this but in the 1% chance he didn't.....

Edit thanx RD wondering how someone got the invoice which is packed away.Or as you say maybe someone from Amazon or their affiliates.Another thing I was wondering how the hell do you take those type of pictures from inside the White House?I'm sure they have high end cyber-security so the Secret Service definitely had to see something this creepy and I'm sure they would have notified/forwarded tOSU.Even though Willie Nelson got away with puffing on hippy lettuce up on the roof back in the day
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #645 on: August 21, 2018, 06:52:29 AM »
Quote from: Roaddawg on August 21, 2018, 01:10:26 AM
Seems Smith's attorney is not gonna mess around with McMurphy either, and he may want to back off a bit before his skeletons start to fall out of the closet via sources or he finds himself in court.  
Sounds like saber ratting.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #646 on: August 21, 2018, 06:53:44 AM »
Quote from: Roaddawg on August 21, 2018, 01:05:32 AM
Yes, it would be, unless the courts sealed the hearings for some reason.

And do we think this will actually get to a criminal court? Especially those three things?
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #647 on: August 21, 2018, 06:56:53 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 21, 2018, 06:53:44 AM
And do we think this will actually get to a criminal court? Especially those three things?
He is charged criminally with the criminal trespass, but the more explosive hearing will be about the protection order.  I forget the exact standard, but it's more or less he has to have displayed a pattern of activity that make her fear for her safety.  This is a pretty broad standard and opens up a lots of cans of worms for questioning.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #648 on: August 21, 2018, 09:27:14 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 21, 2018, 06:56:53 AM
pattern of activity that make her fear for her safety.  
seems there's evidence of such a pattern
criminal court is the leverage she uses to get the big payday.  Settling out of court for $$$
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #649 on: August 21, 2018, 10:09:06 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 09:27:14 AM
seems there's evidence of such a pattern
criminal court is the leverage she uses to get the big payday.  Settling out of court for $$$
Maybe...he's charged with criminal trespass, which is a 4th degree misdemeanor and carries a maximum 30 days in jail.  The circumstances are odd, and I'm not sure a judge would be inclined to impose a jail sentence.  In any event, my point is the criminal case is much narrower in scope than the protection order case.  Nearly all of the stuff could come in under the protection order case.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #650 on: August 21, 2018, 10:23:46 AM »
yup, besides no one really cares about the Smith's and their crazy relationship

We only care how it will affect Urby's employment

the question remains, was the relationship crazy enough to be potentially dangerous, did Urby know it was this crazy, and what did Urby do with this information if he did know it was out of hand?
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #651 on: August 21, 2018, 11:10:02 AM »
The only question that matters is whether Ohio State is more concerned with the opinion of people outside of Ohio, or those from Ohio...who actually support the program. 

I think we know what the answer to that question is, and it will be confirmed on Thursday when Urban is reinstated. tOSU and Urbs will be pariahs...and will continue to win, and give no shits in the process. 

My suggestion to everybody else is to deal, and move on. 
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« Reply #652 on: August 21, 2018, 11:55:19 AM »
I won't have trouble dealing with that.

I didn't think Urban was a great guy before he came to Columbus, this just confirms it a bit.

I won't have trouble dealing with tOSU's decision either.  Urban is who he is.  He was hired to win, not hired to be like Mike Riley.  I don't think he did anything horrible.  Not anymore horrible than he's done all along in his career.

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as long as Urban reported what he knew to the proper people in the athletic department
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #653 on: August 21, 2018, 12:29:57 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 11:55:19 AM
I won't have trouble dealing with that.

I didn't think Urban was a great guy before he came to Columbus, this just confirms it a bit.

I won't have trouble dealing with tOSU's decision either.  Urban is who he is.  He was hired to win, not hired to be like Mike Riley.  I don't think he did anything horrible.  Not anymore horrible than he's done all along in his career.

modified to include..........

as long as Urban reported what he knew to the proper people in the athletic department
Fearless kinda nails it. He’ll take a different brand of crap than he used to, but that’s about it. 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #654 on: August 21, 2018, 12:48:32 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 11:55:19 AM
I won't have trouble dealing with tOSU's decision either.  Urban is who he is.  He was hired to win, not hired to be like Mike Riley.  I don't think he did anything horrible.  Not anymore horrible than he's done all along in his career.
Agreed. However, I think it will begin to backfire on Urban whenever he steps back into that solemn voice, trying to let us know the better way to live, emphasizing he's the leader who knows the way. And he will do that. Because that's part of his recruiting spiel and way of reflecting on past seasons.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #655 on: August 21, 2018, 01:59:42 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on August 21, 2018, 12:13:26 AM
I found that text transcript with Koffel fascinating.
yeah after reading that my advice to Zach Smith would be get a new lawyer asap. His lawyer is a clown.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #656 on: August 21, 2018, 02:03:37 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on August 21, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
Agreed. However, I think it will begin to backfire on Urban whenever he steps back into that solemn voice, trying to let us know the better way to live, emphasizing he's the leader who knows the way. And he will do that. Because that's part of his recruiting spiel and way of reflecting on past seasons.
Urban would take a lot less flak if he would just be honest about who/what he is. Nobody likes a hypocrite. They like people who are real.
Take Mike Leach for instance. Love that dude. He doesn't pretend to be something he's not. He's just himself. Urby is like the Hillary Clinton of football coaches. Authentically inauthentic.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #657 on: August 21, 2018, 02:36:23 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2018, 01:59:42 PM
yeah after reading that my advice to Zach Smith would be get a new lawyer asap. His lawyer is a clown.
Eh, I think his client is in a corner and Koffel's playing the only cards he has left: (a) be evasive always, (b) keep repeating the same message in case it can get your opponent to back down. It's not effective, but I don't see any spots where another lawyer could easily do better. 
Zach made his bed. All Koffel can do is pray that McMurphy doesn't get another look at it.
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