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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #308 on: August 03, 2018, 10:21:22 PM »
Meyer should've fired him the second Shelley Meyer told him what was going on. In all honesty he never should've hired him in the first place because he is a terrible WR's coach.
Amen to the never hiring part!
Here is where I am confused and have questions:
The way urban worded his presser at big 10 media days, if you listen carefully was very strange.
Specifically he said I got a text the other night about the 2015 incident and we looked at that and there was nothing there
He didn’t say I’m not aware of it or never did he say I am not aware of other things
So I was wondering since Courtney Smith openly acknowledged that she did not reveal that the abuse was physical, because were she was embarrassed, what was Myers wife telling him if anything. Combine that with the fact that it seems like the incident in 15 was relayed from the Powell police to Gene Smith and that is actually how Meyer found out about it. He did make some phone calls and according to the Powell police there was No arrest-  and even Smith‘s name was redacted from the report so therefore, in addition to Zack Smith convincing him that there was nothing to it he probably didn’t think all that much of it    The text he got recently probably said there was an arrest and that’s probably what he meant by there was nothing there.
Either way, I don’t buy that Smith did not hit her. And at the very least Meyer is guilty of giving him way too many chances    
« Last Edit: August 03, 2018, 10:23:55 PM by Honestbuckeye »
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #309 on: August 03, 2018, 10:23:47 PM »
She clearly didn't want him fired was it a bad marriage - sure it was.She obviously didn't feel threatened enough to move on from the financial situation.You can't read these rags written by rubes and accept them as gospel fact.But Smith was right about one thing Meyer is not an investigator and was warned by him.Why did she wait if it was so traumatic?She was willing to take the coin and deal with the BS.And one thing Smith could do was recruit - that's why he was kept around.Hell every day the media slanders people and ruins reps but somehow thinks they are entitled to unfettered facts while intruding on peoples personal lives.Meyer obviously should have prepared himself for some slippery insights during media days and tripped over his own tongue.I'm far from his staunchest supporter but way too many malletheads were grabbing pitchforks,shovels and torches before ink had even dried on the story
Look, I kinda feel bad for Meyer here.  And before anyone jumps on me, yes, I feel worse for Courtney Smith so save your shock and horror.
I really doubt he was trying to do anything but mind his own business and let two adults work out their own problems. He may have even thought that whatever problems they were having would be exacerbated by Smith losing a lucrative job. But I’m coming at it from a “regular guy” angle and Meyer isn’t a regular guy on a regular job. We’ll see if he can wordsmith his way out of this.  I think he got caught telling a lie about a very touchy subject and to some it appears he was enabling a wife beater.

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« Reply #310 on: August 03, 2018, 10:24:10 PM »
again why wait so long unless there are other motives that she may not wish to share or air out.Should have came out guns blazing at the time of trauma.Why did she have police/court records sealed?That's bullshit if you make room for one sides excuse then you better make room on the couch for the others.
she was still married at the time and he was the sole income earner for the family. An income that was north of $400,000 a year. That's a lot of money living in Ohio. Won't get ya far in South Florida or LA or NYC, but you can live really comfy in a nice ole big house with an affordable mortgage in Ohio. Could get a fricken mansion for $850,000 there- $850k will buy you a shoebox in SoFLa, LA, or NYC.
Not that hard to see why she'd stay around and protect his job. She finally had enough and left him. And NONE of this would have come out and he'd probably still be the WR's coach had the idiot just stop harassing her and violating the protective order she had put out against him.
It's literally all that f'in morons fault. He just stays away he's never arrested few weeks back, he never gets fired, and none of this ever comes out.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #311 on: August 03, 2018, 10:32:57 PM »
If the weight of evidence is so overwhelming she should have went for the jugular right there.Financially every divorce I've seen has favored the women/children and rightfully so in most cases.Unless the guy can prove otherwise.Courtney doesn't walk away with empty pockets far from it
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« Reply #312 on: August 03, 2018, 10:36:10 PM »
Look, I kinda feel bad for Meyer here.  And before anyone jumps on me, yes, I feel worse for Courtney Smith so save your shock and horror.
I'll save the shock and horror - you can save the your Jesus and I'm jack the Ripper take.Your right about one thing Meyer wanted them to settle their own problems.Hope it goes to court
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #313 on: August 03, 2018, 10:39:12 PM »
pretty crazy article explaining how ESPN is still paying Brett McMurphy- a guy they laid off. Long story short he had 18 months left on his contract when ESPN fired him. He offered to keep doing work at ESPN as long as they paid him as a sort of freelancer but ESPN declined. ESPN figured he'd just take another job and then the remainder of his salary would be off their books. He says he talked to a lawyer, and as long as he didn't take a job at Fox Sports or CBS Sports or do 3rd party work- then ESPN would have to pay him for those 18 months he was under contract. So the guy turned down job offers and went to his Facebook account and started breaking the biggest CFB stories of the last year since being fired. From Scott Frost being hired, to Joe Moorehead at Miss State, to this Ohio State saga with Zach Smith. On his Facebook page. And ESPN is still paying him the rest of his contract.

Pretty incredible story if you ask me.

https://deadspin.com/how-espn-ended-up-paying-brett-mcmurphy-to-post-the-yea-1828089258
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #314 on: August 03, 2018, 11:04:41 PM »
Yeah, I'm not really sure what they are doing over there.  They fired most of their actual reporters and kept the blowhards and the cheap newbies.  Which is fine, but don't keep trying to report without reporters.

Then they threw a bunch of money at that Get Up show which anyone could have told you was going to fail miserably.

They just need to show live sports and cut corners everywhere else, people who like sports might have it on by chance if nothing is on, but nothing they put on save MAYBE Gameday is appointment viewing anymore.  We don't need you for our highlights and we've had enough hot takes.

The studio coverage that the league networks provide are SO much better, and granted they know their audience. ESPN keeps trying to cast a wide net and it's not going to work.  I think the NFL Network morning show accidentally does a better job doing what I think Get Up is trying to do.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #315 on: August 04, 2018, 09:24:08 AM »
I’m still hping the facts vindicate Meyer.  I want Michigan to beat his rear over and over to trash his perfect record.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #316 on: August 04, 2018, 01:22:59 PM »
pretty easy decision to me

Sack someone in the athletic department - pay them off to take the fall

return to business as usual in the football offices”

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #317 on: August 04, 2018, 02:12:53 PM »
I dunno man - it all seems pretty random what catches fire and what doesn't.  I was thinking of Mike Tirico, who faced various accounts of stalking and groping people.  What's he up to?  Oh, calling NBC's football games and the Olympics, because he is a "changed man."

Greg Oden was a student manager for the basketball team, despite being convicted of punching his ex-girlfriend in the face.  No one seemed to care then, or now.  

Tom Cable has been bouncing around the NFL forever despite all sorts of accusations of punching women (and dudes).  

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #318 on: August 04, 2018, 09:51:13 PM »
If the weight of evidence is so overwhelming she should have went for the jugular right there.Financially every divorce I've seen has favored the women/children and rightfully so in most cases.Unless the guy can prove otherwise.Courtney doesn't walk away with empty pockets far from it
Victims of abuse rarely act this way because of what they’ve gone through mentally and emotionally. I’m not saying this is definitely the case, but I’ve heard way too many arguments lately about how victims of abuse should have done more.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #319 on: August 04, 2018, 10:27:54 PM »
Nubbz, you're talking about what you or I would consider common sense, but we're not domestic abuse victims, man.  Everything you've said about what she should've done or could've done has been prudent, but not for someone in her shoes.  
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #320 on: August 04, 2018, 11:39:49 PM »
Powell police refusing to release the 2015 police report involving Zach Smith.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180803/powell-police-refuse-to-release-report-involving-zach-smith

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Powell police are refusing to release records of a 2015 incident in which Zach Smith’s then-wife accused him of assaulting her. Public-records experts say those files should be open to the public under Ohio law.
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However,the cover pages of the report taken Oct. 26, which were released, note injuries to Smith’s wife, and that a kitchen knife, broken iPhone and two small USB drives were taken as evidence from Courtney Smith’s home.
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Open-records experts argue that unless a case is being “actively investigated” it is considered closed, and that Mr. Smith already has been identified by city officials through other public records and in media reports.
“If they (police) haven’t done anything in a couple of years, then they should release the case file,” said Dennis Hetzel, executive director of the Ohio News Media Association. “It’s obvious who the uncharged suspect is. I think it’s kind of disingenuous on their part to withhold it.”
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The city maintains the suspect “was investigated and believed to have committed an offense, but was not charged/arrested,” according to Megan Canavan, city spokeswoman.
Delaware County Prosecutor Carol O’Brien said she didn’t know why misdemeanor assault or other charges weren’t filed. She said she was disturbed by recent news accounts that Mrs. Smith might have been urged to drop charges at the time or to back off the allegations.
“It bothers me whenever a victim can be manipulated by anyone,” said O’Brien. “Any time you have a power imbalance — and yes, it’s often a woman — it bothers me tremendously.”



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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #321 on: August 04, 2018, 11:49:28 PM »
Ramzy Narsallah who runs Buckeye site 11Warriors saying on twitter that Zach Smith was an alcoholic who was late to his own WR group meetings and Urban knew these things yet still kept him around. Honestly blows my mind this shithead had a job with Meyer for almost a decade.

 

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