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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #238 on: August 03, 2018, 11:50:46 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on August 03, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
I'm not sure of anything right now.She also claimed that Earle Bruce supposedly drove down to Fla in 2009 to convince her not to divorce him.I mean really,your grown up sort it out.Conveniently she says all this after Smith is fired and Earle is dead.Is this motivated by her alimony/child support being affected - when she had years to air all this out but comes out now?Beginning to think the only victims here are the children.
A lot....I mean A LOT of adults are not grown-up emotionally.  And that's just the baseline....once they're victims of abuse, then they're REALLY not.  
It's the difference between what should be and what is.  
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #239 on: August 03, 2018, 11:51:35 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
'Fro,

The abuser isn't being talked about because he's been fired and is not working - probably never will again - unless he grabs a shovel.
Great, then we can move on.  Oh wait, no we can't - there's a celebrity involved!!!
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #240 on: August 03, 2018, 11:56:34 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2018, 09:29:59 AM
If she was truly crazy, she would not have gained custody of the children - as in any. So yeah, disinformation for sure.
Unfortunately that isn't true.  It's almost impossible for fathers to get anything better than 50/50, and that's a tough feat to pull off, no matter how crazy she is, absent being an actual physical threat to the children.  And considering his history, no matter how crazy she is, she's probably better than he is.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #241 on: August 03, 2018, 12:04:17 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on August 02, 2018, 02:32:50 PM
I'm all for waiting for all the facts, but based on what has been made public, it's really difficult to believe Urban Meyer had zero knowledge of this situation. It's very interesting that some are more prone to rush to the defense of a football coach, asking for him to be protected and less worried about a woman who was clearly beat for a long period of time.

Urban has a history of being a liar. If that can't be acknowledged, there's a lot of heads in the sand.
I am curious why is defending the football coach mean they are not worried about the woman. These things are not mutually exclusive and is used by people all the time to shut down their "opponents". You don't want a tax hike for schools, you must not care about the children, etc. Come on, at least be fair when you criticize. 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #242 on: August 03, 2018, 12:15:52 PM »
Quote from: ELA on August 03, 2018, 11:56:34 AM
Unfortunately that isn't true.  It's almost impossible for fathers to get anything better than 50/50, and that's a tough feat to pull off, no matter how crazy she is, absent being an actual physical threat to the children.  And considering his history, no matter how crazy she is, she's probably better than he is.
Well, one of my closest friends got sole custody because his wife was nuts. Maybe things are different in Illinois from where you practice.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #243 on: August 03, 2018, 01:07:45 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2018, 10:42:48 AM
What I don't agree with is her mother pressuring her to stay. The woman wanted out, regardless of money, and her mother wouldn't accept that. Shame on her mother for not backing her child's position and desires. Money isn't everything, and had she left the asshole, he'd probably still be working and paying child support anyway.
She did leave him. Filed for divorce in late 2015 (after this incident), finalized in 2016.
https://247sports.com/Article/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Urban-Meyer-Timeline-of-alleged-abuse-leading-to-Zach-Smiths-firing-120302532/
2 years later, he threatens her again, comes onto her property against her will [charged with criminal trespass], and this causes there to be a protective order.
Maybe her mom gave bad advice. But a few months later, Courtney made the right decision and left him regardless. 
This would all have gone away, likely forever, if Smith hadn't provoked the situation in May and gotten a protective order placed against him. As you say, he'd still be working and paying child support anyway.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #244 on: August 03, 2018, 01:26:16 PM »
Quote from: ELA on August 03, 2018, 11:56:34 AM
Unfortunately that isn't true.  It's almost impossible for fathers to get anything better than 50/50, and that's a tough feat to pull off, no matter how crazy she is, absent being an actual physical threat to the children.  And considering his history, no matter how crazy she is, she's probably better than he is.
Lawyer Friend can confirm this.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #245 on: August 03, 2018, 01:32:45 PM »
Is Gene Smith gonna be in trouble? Local Radio reports coming out that Urban reported other incidents concerning Zach and Courtney to Gene & Title 9 Office.

Also several Layers coming out saying since Courtney Smith isn't a student or employee of the University she isn't protected by Title 9. OSU has a seperate Sexual Abuse code of Conduct (Handled by the Title 9 Office) that should be considered.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #246 on: August 03, 2018, 02:06:40 PM »
Gene Smith hired Dan McCarney as the head coach at Iowa State with his own domestic abuse arrest when Smith was there, so it wouldn't be out of character for Smith to ignore that red flag.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #247 on: August 03, 2018, 02:18:52 PM »
As I said up thread Gene could be in deep kimchi
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #248 on: August 03, 2018, 02:19:40 PM »
I don't know how you make the case that the upper levels of university and athletic department officials at Ohio State weren't aware of this, and haven't been for some time. It was ignored until it couldn't be. 

In that vein, I don't see how they can throw Meyer under the bus for that cause without implicating themselves of the same offense. So we gin-up a whitewash committee for insulation, and to buy time for Trump or a Kardashian to wash this off the front page. 

There will be protests outside the stadium when the season starts, but it appears that support for Meyer in Ohio is very strong. That will outlast the outrage.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #249 on: August 03, 2018, 02:30:50 PM »
btw, if every coach on college staffs who have engaged in domestic abuse were to be fired, there'd be hundreds of very thin staffs.....



...bu they're not sexy.  I guarantee you multiple coaches have been dismissed from college fooball jobs in the past calendar year that were underreported or not reported at all.  



The LB coach for Montana Tech isn't sensational enough I guess.   
                              *random example pulled from my butt
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #250 on: August 03, 2018, 02:40:23 PM »
***PSA***

JMO, but I'd keep the ole prison wallet closed in these threads, given the goings-on at various BIG schools these days. 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #251 on: August 03, 2018, 03:05:29 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on August 03, 2018, 01:07:45 PM
She did leave him. Filed for divorce in late 2015 (after this incident), finalized in 2016.
https://247sports.com/Article/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Urban-Meyer-Timeline-of-alleged-abuse-leading-to-Zach-Smiths-firing-120302532/
2 years later, he threatens her again, comes onto her property against her will [charged with criminal trespass], and this causes there to be a protective order.
Maybe her mom gave bad advice. But a few months later, Courtney made the right decision and left him regardless.
This would all have gone away, likely forever, if Smith hadn't provoked the situation in May and gotten a protective order placed against him. As you say, he'd still be working and paying child support anyway.
Informative post. I didn't know that sequence.
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