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Topic: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings

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Kris60

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2018, 02:33:27 PM »
I don’t think ND’s helmet matters in the slightest.  Right now, only Alabama’s does, but for a reason.  I believe the committee will favor the more talented team when faced with a tough decision.  That may often be the helmet team, but not always, season to season.  
Bama’s helmet matters now because it’s the most talented team by far.  I think talent perception is why Baylor/TCU were left out that one year.
This has been discussed on here a lot lately but Ohio St had a lot more going for them than just being Ohio St.  More ranked wins. Better SOS. 13 games compared to 12.  Indiana would have had a case with that resume.
The more I think about it I really think if LSU were to beat Bama and run the table to the SECCG then Bama might be done in regards to the playoffs,  even at 11-1.   I think the people sitting in that committee room would feel really queasy about putting Bama in there two years in a row without so much as making their CCG with an even weaker resume this year than last.

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2018, 02:39:59 PM »
It is kind of funny that some of the more controversial selections have gone onto win the whole thing. 

OSU in '14, Bama last year, as well as the year when they had a rematch with LSU... 
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2018, 02:41:45 PM »
I hear you, but USC plays Notre Dame every year and also plays 9 conference games.  
And year-ending rival UCLA has (b)ruined 2 NC opportunities for the Trojans in the last 20 years.  
Again, yes, the SEC going to 9 would be cool and uniform, but what real motive is there?
Do I want to add Auburn before FSU, Atlanta, and bowl?
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2018, 02:43:39 PM »
This has been discussed on here a lot lately but Ohio St had a lot more going for them than just being Ohio St.  More ranked wins. Better SOS. 13 games compared to 12.  Indiana would have had a case with that resume.
The more I think about it I really think if LSU were to beat Bama and run the table to the SECCG then Bama might be done in regards to the playoffs,  even at 11-1.   I think the people sitting in that committee room would feel really queasy about putting Bama in there two years in a row without so much as making their CCG with an even weaker resume this year than last.
But again, you’re focused on resume and the committee may be more enamored with all-time talent.  
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2018, 03:35:24 PM »
If LSU wins out, Alabama is in trouble UNLESS the other candidates have 2 losses.  One loss is better than two losses, apparently, unless the two losses are respectable and offset by 3-4 really good wins.

An interesting situation that has happened is a team starts out slowly and drops two games but makes a strong finish to go 11-2 blowing everyone out.  Do the early losses count less than later losses?  Do you rank the team based on end of the year status or overall performance?

Might be the best team in the country end of the year, but ...

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2018, 04:34:53 PM »
1994 Orange Bowl - #2 Huskers were 17.5 point dogs to #1 FSU
must have been road games. or maybe they were just wrong.

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2018, 04:39:01 PM »
Alabama, Alabama, Alabama. The team you should be upset about is Notre Dame and not Alabama. Notre Dame played one team with a pulse, Michigan, and lucked out at home because it was Michigan's first game. They have narrow wins against Vanderbilt, Ball State and Pitt. Those games should be looked at objectively and they should not get a pass because they eked by three dregs. Alabama beats those types of teams by 50 points.

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2018, 04:49:38 PM »
Ohio State this year played TCU and Oregon State, both P5 teams AND 9 conference opponents, of course.  That is good scheduling in my book even if OSU Lite was especially lite this year.

Just play ten P5 level teams, any fewer is not good scheduling in my book.
Well Ohio State's schedule was a lot harder in theory than it was in practice.  It sounds great to play two P5 teams OOC and even better when one of them has been a contender in the B12 most years of late.  Then TCU tanked.  

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2018, 04:50:16 PM »
must have been road games. or maybe they were just wrong.
maybe they only went back 20 years?
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2018, 04:50:42 PM »
And Texas doesn't play aTm every year, while playing 9 Conference games.
Nebraska-Oklahoma? Gone.
9 Conference games seems to discourage schools from maintaining an out of Conference rivalry a LOT more often then not.
There are a few exceptions such as USC and Utah playing Notre Dame and BYU respectively. But those teams are also out west where there aren't really a lot of major teams nearby for them to be playing instead.
The other thing about Pac teams is that unlike the heavyweights in the B1G and SEC, they can't fill up 100k stadiums for games against pastries.  If they want to sell tickets they HAVE to schedule legitimate opponents.  

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2018, 04:52:46 PM »

Nebraska-Oklahoma? Gone.
2021 and 2022
2029 and 2030
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2018, 04:56:08 PM »
And Texas doesn't play aTm every year, while playing 9 Conference games.
Nebraska-Oklahoma? Gone.
9 Conference games seems to discourage schools from maintaining an out of Conference rivalry a LOT more often then not.
There are a few exceptions such as USC and Utah playing Notre Dame and BYU respectively. But those teams are also out west where there aren't really a lot of major teams nearby for them to be playing instead.
I'm just pointing out that it CAN happen because it DOES happen.
And I also think there's a difference between the TX/A&M and NU/OU situations where previously in-conference rivals left, vs. what would happen in the SEC, where they'd simply remove one of the 4 OOC slots and replace it with an in-conference game.  
But that's splitting hairs, overall I agree that if for some reason the SEC decided to insist on 9 conference games, then that would place a lot of pressure on those existing OOC rivalry games, and I'd expect at least some of them would be killed off.
And all of THAT is academic, because I don't foresee any situation where the SEC would insist on that, because the status quo is working extremely well for them. Nor am I one of the people that believe all conferences and conference championships should be uniform.  This isn't the NFL Lite and I pray it never becomes so.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2018, 04:57:04 PM »
2021 and 2022
2029 ans 2030
That's not an annual OOC rivalry and you know it.  However, that might be more meetings in a 10-year period than the two teams ever had in the B12. :)

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2018, 04:59:08 PM »
it's not annual, but it's not "Gone" either

9 conference games doesn't mean ya can't schedule some heavy hitters for the fans and the networks
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