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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2018, 08:53:44 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 31, 2018, 08:09:06 PM
Saw someone talk about this on tv. Forget the dudes name.
Basically said that if Bama were to lose vs LSU and not make the SEC CG that they’d be out. They’d have zero quality wins on that resume and other 1 loss or no loss teams would be more deserving.

I'll quote William Munny, from Unforgiven:  "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
Alabama's resume is but a small part of its appeal to the committee.  
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2018, 08:57:04 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 31, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
I'll quote William Munny, from Unforgiven:  "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
Alabama's resume is but a small part of its appeal to the committee.  
Great quote, one of my favs!   Plus, you are right on the money. 
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2018, 09:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 31, 2018, 08:09:06 PM
Saw someone talk about this on tv. Forget the dudes name.
Basically said that if Bama were to lose vs LSU and not make the SEC CG that they’d be out. They’d have zero quality wins on that resume and other 1 loss or no loss teams would be more deserving.

I think I agree they wouldn’t.  The situation would be a little different than last year when Bama didn’t lose until the regular season finale.  By that time they already had a couple of ranked wins under their belt with Miss St and LSU.  At the end of the year even Fresno St cracked the top 25 for a week.  Even the win over an average FSU team was looked a little differently because Francois got hurt at the end of that game.  So I think Bama even got a little credit for beating them at full strength.
None of that would be in play this year.  Louisville flat out sucks.  They won’t get a little boost from their G5 opponents.  Auburn, Miss St, and A&M all look to finish with at least 4 losses, if not more.  If Bama loses to LSU they don’t have a lot going for them resume wise.
I think it will be a moot point because I fully expect Bama to handle LSU but if they would lose they might be in trouble.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2018, 12:21:45 AM »
Surely nobody around here is suggesting helmet bias might help a team get into the CFP?
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2018, 07:23:22 AM »
I don't think the committee has a heavy bias to Alabama.  The only "example" where that could have happened was last season but the alternatives all had two losses (other than UCF).  That is simply a one loss team over two loss teams.

A one loss non-conference champ won't get in over a one loss conference champ unless something REALLY weird is afoot.  And it isn't this year.  Bama has a weak OOC slate and the rest of the SEC West has faded some other than LSU.  The SEC East MIGHT (arguably) be a better division right now, and Bama faced two of their weaker opponents.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2018, 08:49:31 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 31, 2018, 10:49:51 AM
SEC needs to go to a 9 game schedule and stop playing FCS teams.
Every non-SEC fan thinks this. But their formula works for them to the tune of getting half the playoff bids.
I know this will piss OAM on some fundamental level (for being lazy)
But it would appear to me that the committee so far has the final ranking look like this:
1) Zero loss, P5 Champ (2014 FSU, 2015 Clemson, 2016 'bama)
2) Zero loss, non-champ (potential ND)
3) One loss, P5 Champ (All other participants)
4) One loss, P5 non-champ (2016 OSU, 2017 'bama)
In '16, and '17 the other P5 Champs all had a second blemish allowing for a non-champ to make the playoff. And if I'm not wrong it hasn't gone past this.
If there are NO upsets the final rankings will be:
1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) WSU, OKlahoma/WVU, OSU/M*ch beauty contest Winner

LSU/Kentucky/Georgia can win their way in by beating 'bama. And even with a loss Alabama can keep the streak alive if Pac, Big's have a conference champ who stubs their toe again.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2018, 09:14:27 AM »
The SEC has gotten two teams in exactly once, where the alternatives had two losses.  That hardly is a trend, and of course this early in the experiment trends are dubious anyway.

Those two SEC teams did make the final CG of course.

This apparent "SEC loathing" and hyperbole is rather interesting, to me.  I also think emotions interfere with analysis.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2018, 09:48:54 AM »
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2018, 10:05:37 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 31, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
As for the potential who's in, who's out of the top teams, the Irish better not lose a game.  They're out if they do.
They are screwed if they lose a game.  They are a lock at 12-0 but at 11-1 they would probably be behind all of the following:
  • All undefeated P5 Champions.  
  • All 1-loss P5 Champions.  
  • A potential 1-loss non-Champion Bama or Clemson.  
  • At least some (if not most) 2-loss P5 Champions.  

In other words 11-1 Notre Dame has almost no chance.  
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2018, 10:11:33 AM »
this is ed zachery why the Committee (ESPN) announces a poll this early in the season
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2018, 10:12:31 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 01, 2018, 10:05:37 AM

In other words 11-1 Notre Dame has almost no chance.  
but, there's a chance
and they have a very shiny helmet
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2018, 10:13:37 AM »
ND's schedule is often full of Big Names of course, but this year many of thise BNs fell rather flat.  On the other hand, NW and Syracuse are playing "above their station".  And the weak wins over Vandy and Pitt tarnish their patina.

11-1 with a loss to say NW won't look good at all.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2018, 10:15:47 AM »
how about a 1 point loss to  USC on the last play of the game hail mary lob pass?
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2018, 10:25:08 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 01, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
how about a 1 point loss to  USC on the last play of the game hail mary lob pass?
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