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« Reply #30814 on: April 22, 2024, 04:53:15 AM »
It occurs to me that we could spend $17 billion on border protection and still do a bad job of it. We could spend $100 billion and do a bad job. S lets not pretend that spending vast sums of money equals action. Often as the case with govt programs the opposite is true. 

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« Reply #30816 on: April 22, 2024, 08:39:37 AM »
It occurs to me that we could spend $17 billion on border protection and still do a bad job of it. We could spend $100 billion and do a bad job. S lets not pretend that spending vast sums of money equals action. Often as the case with govt programs the opposite is true.
"Border protection" is essentially a large program to restrict the movement of labor. It's been pretty good at giving shady companies a cheap source of employees who can't complain.

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« Reply #30817 on: April 22, 2024, 08:43:06 AM »
I view it more as a means to "vette" folks who enter the country and simply "control" or manage our borders and the stuff that comes in we don't want.  

Otherwise, we might just as well stop the hassle of immigration when we fly back into the country.

And I don't favor granting "shady companies" cheap labor.

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« Reply #30818 on: April 22, 2024, 09:08:12 AM »

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Otherwise, we might just as well stop the hassle of immigration when we fly back into the country.
The horror...

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« Reply #30819 on: April 22, 2024, 09:11:09 AM »
Yeah, I think folks entering the country should be checked out.  I guess that's a radical notion pretty much aligned with nearly any mainstream Democrat.

I think folks wanting a Green Card should be vetted, as well as folks who apply for citizenship.  I'm not at all in favor of "open borders".  

Or as I often see on Facebook, "boarders".

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« Reply #30820 on: April 22, 2024, 09:13:11 AM »
Yeah, I think folks entering the country should be checked out.  I guess that's a radical notion pretty much aligned with nearly any mainstream Democrat.

I think folks wanting a Green Card should be vetted, as well as folks who apply for citizenship.  I'm not at all in favor of "open borders". 

Or as I often see on Facebook, "boarders".
That's fine, I was just describing reality instead of stating a position. Immigration and border control are huge government restrictions on the market, and have all the costs associated with them.

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« Reply #30821 on: April 22, 2024, 09:14:32 AM »
Not having them would also incur costs on "The System".  That's why every developed country has them, usually more stringent than ours.


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« Reply #30822 on: April 22, 2024, 09:16:04 AM »
boarders reminds me of squatters

when did this become a thing?
does it help to have a no trespassing sign at the gate?

around here if someone returns home and a stranger is in the house, the stranger might get shot.
at least the sheriff would be called and the stranger arrested if they refuse to leave

or is this not the case anymore in any state?
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« Reply #30823 on: April 22, 2024, 09:17:38 AM »
Not having them would also incur costs on "The System".  That's why every developed country has them, usually more stringent than ours.


That's the conventional wisdom at least. I definitely question whether we are getting any bang for our buck

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« Reply #30824 on: April 22, 2024, 09:19:07 AM »
boarders reminds me of squatters

when did this become a thing?
does it help to have a no trespassing sign at the gate?

around here if someone returns home and a stranger is in the house, the stranger might get shot.
at least the sheriff would be called and the stranger arrested if they refuse to leave

or is this not the case anymore in any state?
Feels like more urban legend than anything. Where it can come into play is in places with lots of rentals and leases and subleases. Imagine you are in a sublease and paying rent and then the owner of the property says get the hell out, you didn't have any agreement with me.

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« Reply #30825 on: April 22, 2024, 10:07:37 AM »
Some trespassers may not have to wait a full five years to claim adverse possession against your property.

Iowa Code § 560.2 allows squatters to pursue a color of title claim one year after they perform valuable improvements on the real estate they occupy. Similarly, if you didn’t pay your property taxes for two consecutive years and the civil trespasser pays the dues for you, the courts will allow the squatter to claim color of title earlier.

The Five Elements of Adverse Possession
Squatters must not only occupy your land, to secure a color of title, the civil trespassers must also satisfy five legal requirements before bringing their adverse possession claims to court:

Hostility. A simple occupation of the premise with or without awareness of the trespassing or a good faith occupation where the intruder honestly believes that he/she has a legal right to live there.
Actual Possession. Squatter must be physically present on the premise and maintain the property as if it was their own during the adverse possession period.
Open and Notorious. The occupation must be open and obvious (not hidden) where the public and the landowner can witness the squatting during a reasonable investigation.
Exclusivity. The civil trespasser must hold exclusive possession and not share property ownership with other intruders.
Continuous Possession. Intruders may not interrupt their occupation. The adverse possession clock stops ticking as soon as a squatter reasonably abandons your property.


https://iowaprobatelitigation.com/essential-guide-for-evicting-squatters-in-iowa-why-you-need-to-act-quickly/
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« Reply #30826 on: April 22, 2024, 10:20:09 AM »
The Sooners take pride in their squatting

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« Reply #30827 on: April 22, 2024, 10:30:33 AM »
and their cheating
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