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« Reply #29274 on: March 05, 2024, 09:32:52 AM »
Yes many states and/or municipalities have laws on the books against price gouging in times of emergency.  For example, we know a hurricane is coming to Florida and the local Home Depot starts selling plywood at triple the price.  That would be a pretty clear case of breaking those types of laws.

I don't know of any Federal equivalent but that doesn't mean there isn't one.  Still, if there were one, I'd expect it to be cited in the announcement of such a task force.

Collusion is illegal yet it happens all the time.  Tacit collusion is the most common form.

But I don't see much evidence of that happening right now. I see many companies in high tech currently cutting prices to acquire market share from their competitors, which is pretty much the opposite of collusion.  I don't follow consumer package goods all that closely but collusion isn't part of their usual bag of tricks, either.

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« Reply #29275 on: March 05, 2024, 09:32:58 AM »
Oddly enough, a granted US patent confers a monopoly to the holder, legally.  

My guess is this "task force" meets a few times and perhaps tries to jaw bone a few companies about something, but they won't be able to act in any forceful fashion.  It might make some news.  Maybe they could try and go after Target.

Target (TGT) earnings Q4 2023 (cnbc.com)

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« Reply #29276 on: March 05, 2024, 09:35:40 AM »
The New York Times is facing backlash over its coverage of Donald Trump and the 2024 election | CNN Business

Apparently, its readers think it has not focused negatively on Trump enough.  A good question is whether it would make any difference as I'd guess nearly all NYT readers won't vote for DJT.  But, they can be more negative to appease their readers of course, which is how news organizations operate (usually).

Life is all irony and I'm against all over generalizations.
NYT is a joke, it’s complete propaganda, fake news if you will, a tool of the establishment of the Democratic Party, and the people who actually read it and believe it are legit retarded.

Their entire Gaza reporting is falling apart at the seams and blowing up in their face. Just like all their fake news stories about Russiagate. Or the Iraq War and WMDs. Or that Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian propaganda. Or it’s many outright lies about COVID.

Nothing to see there, retards gonna retard.

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« Reply #29277 on: March 05, 2024, 09:40:22 AM »
Oddly enough, a granted US patent confers a monopoly to the holder, legally. 

My guess is this "task force" meets a few times and perhaps tries to jaw bone a few companies about something, but they won't be able to act in any forceful fashion.  It might make some news.  Maybe they could try and go after Target.

Target (TGT) earnings Q4 2023 (cnbc.com)
Biden’s big thing he’s going on about is “shrinkflation” - consumers paying the same price for a bag of Doritos, Oreos, or box of cereal that is 15-20% smaller.

They are giving you less of poisonous highly processed garbage food for the same price! Even though that might help improve your health! THOSE BASTERDS. 

As if that is a bad thing in the fattest, unhealthiest country on planet fcking earth. 

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« Reply #29278 on: March 05, 2024, 09:42:36 AM »
NYT is a joke, it’s complete propaganda, fake news if you will, a tool of the establishment of the Democratic Party, and the people who actually read it and believe it are legit retarded.
Do you often read the NYT? 

Most of it, in my view, is apolitical, and well written, and can be interesting (or not).  I read it rarely myself, usually when it's free from a hotel or something.  I do get a daily email from one of their writers that can be pretty good.

I guess I'm retarded.

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« Reply #29279 on: March 05, 2024, 10:42:51 AM »
that's actually exactly what the SCOTUS says in regards to the Colorado courts novel and radical interpretation of section 3 of the 14th amendment of the constitution (an amendment by the way which was designed to keep high ranking Confederate politicians out of the US government after reconstruction post the fcking CIVIL WAR- not to keep the leading opposition candidate off ballots in 2024) on page 1 of their 20 page opinion....

Because the Constitution makes Congress, rather than the States, responsible for enforcing Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates, we reverse.

Colorado way over stepped their bounds on something that is not within their authority nor jurisdiction to do so. No need to read a single thing after that sentence. What Colorado did was wholly unconstitutional, radical, extreme, and reckless- which is why they got their clocks cleaned in the Supreme Court of the United States of America 9-0.
I'm aware of what SCOTUS said. I'm also aware that SCOTUS, being quite learned and persuasive, can often reason backwards from a conclusion to find the justification that they want. Try reading an opinion sometime... Often you read the majority opinion and it seems absolutely simple and forthright why the Court decided the case. Then read the dissenting opinion, and you might suddenly find yourself starting to believe that the majority decided the case by cherry-picking and misapplying legal precedents from other cases and in fact the case should have gone the other way. 

They relied heavily on the Enforcement Act of 1870 as their reasoning for why this must be Congress' job. But if you read the history around the Enforcement Acts, they were only passed because it was [very rationally] believed that the Southern states would abrogate their duty to enforce the 14th and 15th Amendments and so they must be enforced upon them. But now it is used to say that the states cannot enforce them, and further that NOBODY but Congress CAN enforce the Amendments. That is the area where it is quite possible that they went WAY too far--as evidenced by the concurring opinions of Sotomayor/Kagan/Jackson, and even the milquetoast two-paragraph concurrence from Barrett. 

I also think there's an inherent contradiction. 14AS3 gives Congress the power, upon two-thirds vote, to reinstate someone who is removed from office under the insurrection clause. Why would it require a two-thirds majority to reinstate someone, when Congress is the ONLY body with the power to enforce the order and remove someone, which they could do by simple majority? 

I understand the main finding. I think it does create a patchwork of inconsistent and potentially contradictory sets of election conditions for what is a national election. I'm not sure I'm entirely swayed by it--we've always had inconsistent and potentially contradictory rules regarding elections state-to-state, even with the Electoral College (i.e. most states assign all electors to the state popular vote winner, but Maine for example does not; they split their electors). But along the same lines I understand Cincy's point about due process; in that very same state of Maine the ruling came from a single person (the state AG I believe) to remove him from the ballot. That doesn't seem to be due process IMHO. 

While it was 9-0 on the main finding of the case, it was basically 5-4 on how far the majority opinion was willing to go beyond the main finding essentially saying nobody but Congress has any enforcement power. 

I think they wrote it this way for two reasons:

  • If Trump wins the election, but perhaps between Election Day and Inauguration (so he can't yet pardon himself) he is convicted in federal court of engaging in insurrection, SCOTUS can invalidate any attempt by anyone except Congress (such as the Attorney General) to stop him from taking office and/or remove him when he does. And if Republicans can hold 50%+1 seats in either house (potentially likely if their party takes the White House), then that won't happen. I think it was quite clearly motivated reasoning. 
  • I think they realize that they can't stomach the idea of granting full legal immunity to anything and everything a President does while in office, which is on their docket and so they're going to have to rule against Trump. So by not allowing anyone but Congress to enforce 14AS3, it's possible that he might still face trial for the insurrection, still be convicted, and still end up in the White House


I think it's an interesting legal case. I think there are areas where SCOTUS went too far and there may be political motivation to go above and beyond the findings necessary to conclude this case. And I think that can be clearly and rightly criticized even if you agree with the main finding.

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« Reply #29280 on: March 05, 2024, 10:45:19 AM »
youve got too much time on your hands

No I have not read it but I listened to several others that have and as can be seen from my prior post have a pretty good understanding what the meat of it is
Question: did you listen to "several others that have" from both sides of the aisle, or only conservative media outlets?

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« Reply #29281 on: March 05, 2024, 10:48:29 AM »
Trump presses Supreme Court to rule for him on presidential immunity | The Hill

"If a president does a good job, a president should be free and clear and, frankly, celebrated for having done a good job,” Trump said Monday. “Not indicted four times and not gone after on a civil basis and not demanded to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in fines.”


I don't know how one can clearly define with is, or is not, "a good job", and it has nothing to do with immunity of course.

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« Reply #29282 on: March 05, 2024, 10:57:30 AM »
Question: did you listen to "several others that have" from both sides of the aisle, or only conservative media outlets?

I listen to the ones that have been proven right many times in the past

with so many folks out there giving opinions you included its not hard to spot the ones who prove correct much more then incorrect
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« Reply #29283 on: March 05, 2024, 11:00:22 AM »
Trump presses Supreme Court to rule for him on presidential immunity | The Hill

"If a president does a good job, a president should be free and clear and, frankly, celebrated for having done a good job,” Trump said Monday. “Not indicted four times and not gone after on a civil basis and not demanded to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in fines.”


I don't know how one can clearly define with is, or is not, "a good job", and it has nothing to do with immunity of course.
Sure it does

The President has to make many difficult decisions and should not be afraid to do so
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« Reply #29284 on: March 05, 2024, 11:05:57 AM »
Sure it does

The President has to make many difficult decisions and should not be afraid to do so
Yeah, and if the SCOTUS grants complete and total Presidential immunity to anything a President does while in office, what's to stop Biden from sending a SEAL team to kill Trump? 

Sometimes ya just gotta make difficult decisions for the good of the country. You don't want to be subject to some prosecutor on a "witch hunt" after your term ends.

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« Reply #29285 on: March 05, 2024, 11:06:21 AM »




I think they wrote it this way for two reasons:

  • If Trump wins the election, but perhaps between Election Day and Inauguration (so he can't yet pardon himself) he is convicted in federal court of engaging in insurrection, SCOTUS can invalidate any attempt by anyone except Congress (such as the Attorney General) to stop him from taking office and/or remove him when he does. And if Republicans can hold 50%+1 seats in either house (potentially likely if their party takes the White House), then that won't happen. I think it was quite clearly motivated reasoning.
  • I think they realize that they can't stomach the idea of granting full legal immunity to anything and everything a President does while in office, which is on their docket and so they're going to have to rule against Trump. So by not allowing anyone but Congress to enforce 14AS3, it's possible that he might still face trial for the insurrection, still be convicted, and still end up in the White House.


I think it's an interesting legal case. I think there are areas where SCOTUS went too far and there may be political motivation to go above and beyond the findings necessary to conclude this case. And I think that can be clearly and rightly criticized even if you agree with the main finding.
there was no insurrection
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« Reply #29286 on: March 05, 2024, 11:09:14 AM »
Yeah, and if the SCOTUS grants complete and total Presidential immunity to anything a President does while in office, what's to stop Biden from sending a SEAL team to kill Trump?

Sometimes ya just gotta make difficult decisions for the good of the country. You don't want to be subject to some prosecutor on a "witch hunt" after your term ends.

which is happening right now and interfering in the election
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« Reply #29287 on: March 05, 2024, 11:37:53 AM »
NYT is a joke, it’s complete propaganda, fake news if you will, a tool of the establishment of the Democratic Party, and the people who actually read it and believe it are legit retarded.

Their entire Gaza reporting is falling apart at the seams and blowing up in their face. Just like all their fake news stories about Russiagate. Or the Iraq War and WMDs. Or that Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian propaganda. Or it’s many outright lies about COVID.

Nothing to see there, retards gonna retard.
Dude. You really need to quit reading the Epoch Times, the RNC day sheets, and whatever other sources that have you hair-trigger angry all the time. Being hair-trigger angry all the time is a really lousy way to live.


there was no insurrection
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