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Israel has a right to exist.

So does Palestine.

Therein lies the problem.

That's on the Brits. They started it off after WW1.

Let them deal with it now.

it's 100% on the Brits. They fked everything up in the entire world basically. 

They can't deal with it anymore. The Brits are a bunch of has beens. They are nothing but our little lapdog poodle. A powerless, useless, pathetic nation. 

It's up to us to deal with it. And unfortunately the current administration has done a SH*T fking job of that. Hate Trump all you want- but the Middle East wasn't on fire and Europe wasn't in chaos when he was running the show. Dude got results. Who cares if he's a bully who mean tweets and is a despicable human being. Can he do the job well is all that matters. Are his policies effective is all that matters. And he CLEARLY did a MUCH better job than this brain dead nursing home patient has done. 

I think y'all are really going to settle this debate, finally, right here on this forum.

Thousands of years of conflict and murder from both sides, but you'll be able to solve it.  

Good job!

I think y'all are really going to settle this debate, finally, right here on this forum.

Thousands of years of conflict and murder from both sides, but you'll be able to solve it. 

Good job!

Touche, but I honestly don't think it's that complicated of a subject, as people want to make it.  

I will say, I'm probably one of the few people on "my side," in my experience anyway, who acknowledges the Arabs have a claim. 

You want the truth?  LOL -- we are owned by Israel, and run by Israel.  Time to open your peepers.



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Alan Leventhal   U.S. Ambassador to Denmark
Alejandro Mayorkas   Secretary of Homeland Security
Amos Hochstein   Bureau of Energy Resources Special Envoy
Amy Gutmann   U.S. Ambassador to Germany
Anne Neuberger   Deputy National Security Adviser for Cybersecurity
Avril Haines   Director of National Intelligence
Constance Milstein   U.S. Ambassador to Malta
Dan Shapiro   Adviser on Iran (2021-2023), Senior Advisor for Regional Integration (2023), Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Middle East Policy (2023-2024)
Daniel Rosenblum   U.S. Ambassador to Kazakhstan
David Cohen   CIA Deputy Director
David Cohen   U.S. Ambassador to Canada
David Kessler   Co-chair of the COVID-19 Advisory Board and Head of Operation Warp Speed
David Pressman   U.S. Ambassador to Hungary
Deborah Lipstadt   Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism
Edward Siskel   White House Counsel
Ellen Germain   U.S. Special Envoy for Holocaust Issues
Eric Garcetti   U.S. Ambassador to India
Eric Lander   Science and Technology Adviser
Gary Gensler   Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chairman*
Genine Macks Fidler    National Council on the Humanities
Jack Lew   U.S. Ambassador to Israel (replaced Thomas Nides)
Jack Markell   U.S. Ambassador to Italy and San Marino
Janet Yellin   Secretary of Treasury
Jared Bernstein   Council of Economic Advisers
Jed Kolko   Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs at the Department of Commerce
Jeffrey Zients   COVID-19 Response Coordinator (2021-2023), Chief of Staff (2023)
Jennifer Klein   Co-chair Council on Gender Policy
Jessica Rosenworcel   Chair of the Federal Communications Commission
Jonathan Kanter   Assistant Attorney General in the United States Department of Justice Antitrust Division
Jonathan Kaplan   U.S. Ambassador to Singapore
Mandy Cohen   Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2023) replaced Rochelle Walensky
Marc Nathanson   U.S. Ambassador to Norway
Marc Ostfield   U.S. Ambassador to Paraguay
Marc Stanley   U.S. Ambassador to Argentina
Mark Gitenstein   U.S. Ambassador to the European Union
Merrick Garland   Attorney General
Michael Adler   U.S. Ambassador to Belgium
Michèle Taylor   U.S. Representative to the United Nations Human Rights Council
Mira Resnick   State Department Deputy Assistant Secretary for Regional Security
Ned Price**   State Department Spokesperson
Polly Trottenberg   Deputy Secretary of Transportation
Rachel Levine   Deputy Health Secretary
Rahm Emanuel   U.S. Ambassador to Japan
Randi Charno Levine   U.S. Ambassador to Portugal
Roberta Jacobson   National Security Council “border czar”
Rochelle Walensky   Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2021 - resigned July 2023)
Ron Klain   Chief of Staff (2021-2023), replaced by Jeffrey Zients
Sharon Kleinbaum   Commissioner of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom
Shelley Greenspan   White House liaison to the Jewish community
Stephanie Pollack   Deputy Administrator of the Federal Highway Administration (resigned February 2023)
Steven Dettelbach   Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Stuart Eizenstat   Special Adviser on Holocaust Issues
Tony Blinken   Secretary of State
Wendy Sherman   Deputy Secretary of State (resigned July 2023)
Yael Lempert   U.S. Ambassador to Jordan
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**Price has a Jewish father and Christian mother and identifies as Jewish.

I'm just sayin be a little more selective of targets

Hamas killin a bunch in a day or two is horrible and should be punished and deterred to doing that shit again.

Israel killin Thousands in bunches for months with no end in sight isn't any better.

We're led to believe by our press that when the US retaliates vs a terrorist state or organization that we go out of our way to limit collateral damage to civilians.
Hopefully, this is mostly true.

I'm just sayin be a little more selective of targets

Hamas killin a bunch in a day or two is horrible and should be punished and deterred to doing that shit again.

Israel killin Thousands in bunches for months with no end in sight isn't any better.

We're led to believe by our press that when the US retaliates vs a terrorist state or organization that we go out of our way to limit collateral damage to civilians.

Hopefully, this is mostly true.

look at the drone shots of Gaza before and after.

they are not being selective. they are purposely turning the entire strip into rubble and ruins. they are purposely turning it into an uninhabitable wasteland. the Israeli military/gov't simply does not care about the life of Palestinian women and children. they aren't merely just "mowing the lawn" as they call it- every few years - they are out to level everything in sight regardless of who gets killed and maimed in the process.

30,000 people have been killed in the last couple months of Israel's invasion, most of them women & children, and almost 2 million people have been displaced from their homes because of the constant bombings, most of them women & children.