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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #26516 on: September 04, 2023, 03:45:07 PM »
Poker is pretty easy when playing with friends and colleagues.  Just don't bluff.  Be in when you have good cards, be out when you don't.
Let everyone else bluff
Let everyone else make their hand on the river.
Let everyone else follow hunches.

You will come out ahead every time.
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« Reply #26517 on: September 04, 2023, 03:50:11 PM »
Poker is pretty easy when playing with friends and colleagues.  Just don't bluff.  Be in when you have good cards, be out when you don't.
Let everyone else bluff
Let everyone else make their hand on the river.
Let everyone else follow hunches.

You will come out ahead every time.
Problem is two of my colleagues were in Vegas for the WSOP

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« Reply #26518 on: September 04, 2023, 03:52:45 PM »
Problem is two of my colleagues were in Vegas for the WSOP
As in they're really good or as in they had disposable income?
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« Reply #26519 on: September 04, 2023, 03:57:29 PM »
Problem is two of my colleagues were in Vegas for the WSOP
as the song says every hand is a loser and every hand is a winner

the challenge is not to bluff but to decide which one your hand is

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« Reply #26520 on: September 04, 2023, 04:00:37 PM »
As in they're really good or as in they had disposable income?
Both.

Both are single, love it, and get really pissed when they play with me and I fly by the seat of my pants

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« Reply #26521 on: September 04, 2023, 04:28:07 PM »
He didn't set anything up.  He simply recognized that he knew nothing about football and didn't get in the way of the computer.
And he didn't edit his team during the season.
If that wins you the league, the entire exercise is simply a fun activity to keep you busy.  It's not actually a skill-based competition.
Some of you might be thinking "duh" with the last part there, but sorry, if we're keeping score, I want to win.  If I win, I want it to be based on what I did, not a random outcome of 73 different variables out of my control.
Aren't you the one who says we shouldn't try to justify our opinions based on anecdote? :57:

The odds are the odds, but smart management over the course of a season can stack those odds in your favor. 

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« Reply #26522 on: September 04, 2023, 05:46:31 PM »
I like using a draft board like this: https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp/ppr/12-team/all?view=draftboard

As the draft is going on, I mark off players who are taken with a sharpie. This allows me to see if there are any players who are falling too far on the draft board (i.e. we're in late round 5 and there's a player who is being taken early round 4 who hasn't gone off the board yet).

Standard scoring or PPR? Assuming it's not a 2QB or superflex league, because that changes strategy significantly... Any weird scoring settings for the league?

Here's your basic primer:

  • Despite QB being the most important position in football, it's usually not all that important in fantasy (unless you're in a 2QB or superflex league). You can still take a QB early if it's one of the big ones (Mahomes/Hurts/Allen), shoot for mid-round if you get the right value, or pick it late and hope your WRs/RBs taken early can get you through average QB play. In fantasy, rushing QBs are overvalued relative to the NFL, so you'll see guys like Fields higher on the draft board than you'd probably think of them.
  • Defenses and kickers are useless. Punt them to the very end of the draft (last two rounds). If your draft system supports it (NFL.com allows this), you can even finish the draft without a defense/kicker and fill that in before this weekend's games.
  • Investigate your platforms IR spots, if the league uses them. Picking up a player who is currently injured or suspended but expected to come back and perform well (such as Alvin Kamara who is suspended) can be a sneaky strategy *especially* if you don't draft a defense or kicker. You can move those players to the IR spot once the draft is complete giving you more WR/RB depth.
  • The goal of every draft IMHO is depth at that WR and RB spot. That's where most of your points come from. Being able to sustain bye weeks and injuries is key. In most leagues you don't need a backup QB, backup TE, and never a backup defense or kicker, so load the hell out of the WR and RB spot.
  • Strategy-wise, a growing popularity strategy is called "ZeroRB", especially in PPR leagues. It's basically hitting WR/QB/TE early (usually first 5-6 rounds to load those up) and then filling in mid-round RBs from there on. The idea is that it's easier to find RBs on the waiver wire through the season as other RBs get injured, than to find WRs there. I personally like ZeroRB, with one caveat--if you have one of the first few picks in the first round, it can be useful to use what's called "HeroRB" strategy, where you take a bell cow running back with your first pick and then pivot to WR/QB/TE. I had the 2nd pick in a draft Saturday and took McCaffrey, and then didn't take another RB until the 7th round.

The biggest advice is to go into the draft not with "a list of players to draft", but more to think about roster construction, players you like (and what round you'd like them), and how the draft might fall to you based on draft order. The draft board link I provided helps with that more than a list as it's better visually IMHO.

For example, my draft Saturday I was the 2nd pick in the first round, which meant I was the 11th pick in the second round. I was hoping that Mahomes/Hurts/Allen wouldn't all be gone at that point, because I like to have a top QB if I can. But they were gone, which meant that instead of panicking and taking a QB in the 2nd/3rd round, I knew I'd hold off until my picks in the 4th/5th. So I loaded up on WR with those 2nd/3rd picks. I was hoping for Herbert at the end of the 4th, but he was gone. Burrow was still there, so I got him. If both were gone, I would have given up on QB and planned to take one in the late rounds (8th-12th).


Hope this helps.
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« Reply #26523 on: September 04, 2023, 07:03:05 PM »
He didn't set anything up.  He simply recognized that he knew nothing about football and didn't get in the way of the computer.
And he didn't edit his team during the season.
If that wins you the league, the entire exercise is simply a fun activity to keep you busy.  It's not actually a skill-based competition.
Some of you might be thinking "duh" with the last part there, but sorry, if we're keeping score, I want to win.  If I win, I want it to be based on what I did, not a random outcome of 73 different variables out of my control.
I meant that some auto drafts will fill out lineups weirdly. Like they will draft three quarterbacks or no kickers or something.

And when you say didn’t edit his team, I assume you mean he did not engage in the waiver wire or anything. Obviously he did tinker with his team some.

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« Reply #26524 on: September 04, 2023, 08:07:19 PM »
Aren't you the one who says we shouldn't try to justify our opinions based on anecdote? :57:

The odds are the odds, but smart management over the course of a season can stack those odds in your favor.
Of course.

But I was explaining one reason I stopped doing fantasy football.  There are other reasons.  I was sharing an anecdote, not expecting an anecdote to convince someone not to play.
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« Reply #26525 on: September 04, 2023, 08:35:41 PM »
Poker is pretty easy when playing with friends and colleagues.  Just don't bluff.  Be in when you have good cards, be out when you don't.
Let everyone else bluff
Let everyone else make their hand on the river.
Let everyone else follow hunches.

You will come out ahead every time.
Pretty much my strategy with a couple caveats. Bluff occasionally. Because if you don’t, they know you’ll only go deep with a good hand. If you do bluff, be prepared to lose big. If you win a bluff hand, show ‘‘em sometimes. So they know you were bluffing. Got to keep them guessing once in awhile. And sometimes nothing turns into something. I’d say I won my fair share of games with friends , maybe a little more. 

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« Reply #26526 on: September 04, 2023, 09:31:31 PM »
Of course.

But I was explaining one reason I stopped doing fantasy football.  There are other reasons.  I was sharing an anecdote, not expecting an anecdote to convince someone not to play.
Yes, but the only evidence you offered for it being entirely luck-based and not being a skill-based endeavor was anecdotal. You said:

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If that wins you the league, the entire exercise is simply a fun activity to keep you busy.  It's not actually a skill-based competition.



But now you want to be "well, that's not exactly what I meant, and I can't explain EVERYTHING to you dolts, so I'm going to justify that my actual position was evidential and not anecdotal so there!"

Uh huh. 

I guess with the 10+ FF leagues I've played over the last decade, the fact that I've only missed the playoffs in one of them, won the league in several, and finished runner-up or 3rd place in a few more, must mean I'm the luckiest SOB in the world, huh? 

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« Reply #26527 on: September 04, 2023, 09:35:19 PM »
Problem is two of my colleagues were in Vegas for the WSOP
They bluff don't listen to man behind the curtain 😎. USE to watch Norm Chad when that 1st came out on ESPiN yrs back
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« Reply #26528 on: September 04, 2023, 09:37:00 PM »
I guess with the 10+ FF leagues I've played over the last decade, the fact that I've only missed the playoffs in one of them, won the league in several, and finished runner-up or 3rd place in a few more, must mean I'm the luckiest SOB in the world, huh?
Rather be lucky than good where is this ouija board you consult?
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« Reply #26529 on: September 04, 2023, 09:48:03 PM »
 At best you have to figure out which one makes you hold your nose the least when you pull the lever
Just got an idea - trap doors 😈 shanghai the opposing voters 😎 thanx for the heads up counsel Jalen Watts-Jackson would be proud of you. You get a Yuengling 🥂
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