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Cincydawg

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« Reply #24878 on: June 24, 2023, 10:31:28 AM »
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« Reply #24879 on: June 24, 2023, 11:07:49 AM »
Gonna be interesting.

If Putin senses defeat, will he pull the nuke trigger?
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« Reply #24880 on: June 24, 2023, 11:13:19 AM »
I don't see how that would help him personally, versus getting out of Dodge.  I'm not sure where he would bail, some rumor is the President of Belarus has left town.

I also don't see how this Wagner group has the power to "march on Moscow", if they are attempting  it.  There could be some significant civil war inside Russia now.

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« Reply #24881 on: June 24, 2023, 12:04:46 PM »
Dramatic headline, but some useful reading.

Russia Slides Into Civil War (msn.com)
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« Reply #24882 on: June 24, 2023, 12:06:24 PM »
Putin's presidential plane was spotted leaving Moscow amid Wagner's uprising (msn.com)
Putin's presidential plane was spotted leaving Moscow amid Wagner's uprising (msn.com)
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« Reply #24883 on: June 24, 2023, 06:13:23 PM »
Putin should escape via submarine
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« Reply #24884 on: June 24, 2023, 07:01:24 PM »
Sounds like it’s over
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« Reply #24885 on: June 25, 2023, 09:21:40 AM »
I think it's just getting started, but it's hard to tell. No reliable news media in that country.
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« Reply #24886 on: June 25, 2023, 09:35:07 AM »
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« Reply #24887 on: June 25, 2023, 09:43:36 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
I think it's just getting started, but it's hard to tell. No reliable news media in that country.
I agree with you, I was thinking this specific event was over, the "march on Moscow" etc.  I read that it's a sign they could move that far without any real resistance.

Blinken: Prigozhin’s rebellion ‘shows real cracks’ in Russia | The Hill

As for the possibility a Putin replacement could be worse, I doubt it, because they would not be nearly as powerful initially.  They would need to spend time and effort solidifying their position.  Maybe in the longer run they could be worse, I'm not sure how.  
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« Reply #24888 on: June 25, 2023, 09:56:35 AM »
If that Wagner guy became leader, it would be worse. The World dodged a bullet on that one.
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« Reply #24889 on: June 25, 2023, 10:11:06 AM »
that might not be over either
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« Reply #24890 on: June 25, 2023, 10:15:25 AM »
I think (?) it would be unusual to replace Putin with another who was as autocratic and effective at being that.  They do have "elections" of a sort there.  Putin does an effective job at presenting himself as a strong leader that Russians tend to admire and respect.
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« Reply #24891 on: June 25, 2023, 10:27:48 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 25, 2023, 10:15:25 AM
I think (?) it would be unusual to replace Putin with another who was as autocratic and effective at being that.  They do have "elections" of a sort there.  Putin does an effective job at presenting himself as a strong leader that Russians tend to admire and respect.
He presented himself as strong until yesterday. 
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