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MaximumSam

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« Reply #24794 on: June 21, 2023, 06:54:07 PM »

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Lmfao. Are you smoking crack with Hunter brother? What? People get charged with federal tax crimes and federal gun violations on the DAILY and actually serve time....not get sweetheart PTI deals.
Well, then, answer the question. Why charge him at all if it's just a dog and pony show? Half of Republican talking points is how unfair everything is for them. Critical Republican Theory. It's a nonstop litany of how awful they are treated. The only reason I can find that these charges and agreement were brought was to basically appease Republicans and their perpetual sense of aggrievement. Otherwise, what was the point? I bet there are more than a few members of Congress who have sworn they don't have a drug problem and bought a gun, and are shifty with their taxes.

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« Reply #24795 on: June 21, 2023, 08:29:42 PM »
LOL. "You see, Trump can game the system to his favor. But Hunter Biden shouldn't be able to."

I mean, come on.
dear lord, are you daft or something? 

Employing an army of accounts and tax lawyers to lower your tax burden is....legal. 

Deciding to just not pay your taxes at all on millions of dollars of income is....illegal.

There is a difference. A huge one. Trump is no different from any ultra wealthy person in this country. They LEGALLY game the system to pay as little as possible. 

Trump's tax returns are literally thousands of pages long and while yes he weasels out of paying taxes, he still pays taxes....and he's paid millions upon millions of dollrs in taxes to the US govt over the course of his life.

Hunter didn't file returns and he didn't pay any tax on millions of dollars in come....it's an open and shut case...dear god man.

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« Reply #24796 on: June 21, 2023, 08:34:59 PM »
If you are following the thread, you already know the answer here. Kodak Black claimed he had never been charged for a felony despite being currently under indictment for rape when he filled out his form. That's like shooting ducks in a barrel for prosecutors. Just look at what the feds would have to do to have a hope of convicting Hunter - forensic experts, tracking down relatives and girlfriends. And they still would have pretty limited proof about the actual drugs he did 5 years ago. Plus the law is on shaky ground. This is a no contest - anyone comparing Hunter Biden to Kodak Black is suspect. In my opinion.
Yeah, NO.

He lied on a weapons purchase form. Literally the same exact thing Hunter Biden did. 

The mental gymnastics BlueAnon/ShitLibs make are truly astounding.

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« Reply #24797 on: June 21, 2023, 09:30:44 PM »
dear lord, are you daft or something?

Employing an army of accounts and tax lawyers to lower your tax burden is....legal.

Deciding to just not pay your taxes at all on millions of dollars of income is....illegal.

There is a difference. A huge one. Trump is no different from any ultra wealthy person in this country. They LEGALLY game the system to pay as little as possible.

Trump's tax returns are literally thousands of pages long and while yes he weasels out of paying taxes, he still pays taxes....and he's paid millions upon millions of dollrs in taxes to the US govt over the course of his life.

Hunter didn't file returns and he didn't pay any tax on millions of dollars in come....it's an open and shut case...dear god man.
You aren't grappling with the reality of what you are saying. The tax codes can be gamed. This is true. Someone with lots of resources can game the system. Hunter Biden has lots of resources. So...

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« Reply #24798 on: June 21, 2023, 09:31:50 PM »
Yeah, NO.

He lied on a weapons purchase form. Literally the same exact thing Hunter Biden did.

The mental gymnastics BlueAnon/ShitLibs make are truly astounding.
Mmhmm. Yes, all crimes are basically the same if you strip out all the facts and context and law. 

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« Reply #24799 on: June 21, 2023, 11:15:17 PM »
At a point, I realize there's no point in arguing against this. People very badly want the world to be a way and the law to be a way. 

And the world might be that way, but the law sure doesn't seem to be. And a lot of folks who seem to know very little about how any of this works will insist that the way they misunderstand the world simply has to be the way it is. 

We have so little context or background. And if we start by discounting the person on this board who 110% would know more about this than the rest (unless there's a prosecutor or criminal defense attorney I've missed), then we're not really gonna get far. People will want. The wanting will mean nothing, and we'll get a whole mess of noise. 

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« Reply #24800 on: June 22, 2023, 12:04:48 AM »
Can we all agree that our justice system being influenced by a person's wealth is a bad thing?
I guess the counter argument would be that being wealthy makes it a perk?  Does anyone believe that?
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« Reply #24801 on: June 22, 2023, 05:03:26 AM »
Folks start with the conclusion they want for partisan reasons and then seek confirmation of that.  It's pretty easy to find on line confirmation of whatever you believe about Hunter, or Trump, or anyone else.  The Oklahoma cases I cited COULD have been made public because this was looming by some conservative prosecutor.  I couldn't find other examples, so it seems a bit fishy to me.  Maybe it's not.

Many in the public get played by either side, it's not that hard.

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« Reply #24802 on: June 22, 2023, 06:01:26 AM »
The claim obviously is this was some "sweetheart deal", but the somewhat similar cases I've read about aren't all that similar.  I can't discern whether he got a break or not, personally.  There is prosecutorial discretion that goes a long way in such cases.  It need not be partisan, though it can be.

Hunter is still under investigation for other matters.

It's clear to me none of this is about Hunter at all, it's about Joe, and Republican hopes they can drag him down with this stuff.  The odd thing is if they somehow manage to do this and he can't run in 2024, the Democrats have arguably stronger candidates in the wings.  As a political strategem, it might be premature.

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« Reply #24803 on: June 22, 2023, 06:47:48 AM »
It's mud slinging 
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« Reply #24804 on: June 22, 2023, 06:58:49 AM »
Yes, it is, and it works, because "we" in the public lap it up.  I can't find anything like enough comparable situations to discern whether he got some favoritism or not.  I don't think anyone else can either.  They just assume he did because ...

So, you end up with one side defending it, another side criticizing it, all for political angling.


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« Reply #24805 on: June 22, 2023, 07:05:10 AM »
US has like EIGHT HUNDRED military bases around the world in over 100 countries. I want to say they have around 300+ alone that encircle China and could fire missiles which level Chinese cities in minutes. China has I think like 3 military bases in other countries around the world.
Marshall was pretty smart. The US liberated your country. The US is making a base.
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« Reply #24806 on: June 22, 2023, 07:07:56 AM »
Yes, it is, and it works, because "we" in the public lap it up.  I can't find anything like enough comparable situations to discern whether he got some favoritism or not.  I don't think anyone else can either.  They just assume he did because ...

So, you end up with one side defending it, another side criticizing it, all for political angling.


All I know is if I were HB and my name wasn't HB, I'd be going to jail. Nothing political about it, at all.
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« Reply #24807 on: June 22, 2023, 07:13:54 AM »
All I know is if I were HB and my name wasn't HB, I'd be going to jail. Nothing political about it, at all.
How do you know that?  

 

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