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It's pretty easy to prove when the culprit admits to it.  All these cases are lying on a Federal form, every one of them.  That is the crime, and it's not in dispute, it was admitted as a fact. 

The specific details of the lie and what it's about is irrelevant at that point except perhaps to sentencing.

No. You can't use the plea bargain as evidence for guilt to turn around and charge the defendant with a more serious crime. That would defeat the purpose of the plea bargain. Also probably violate the rules of evidence. 

The biggest issue is the lie. It's a heck of a lot easier to prove someone has a prior record than it is that someone is a drug addict.

He has admitted to using illegal drugs. There is video of him using drugs. The HB charges are simply a way for the DOJ to say that he didn't get off without any charges, but not charged with the felonies that would be very easy to prove. It is a slap on the wrist that you or I would not get. 

I mean, sure. But I think the attraction here for the prosecutor, who was appointed by Trump and kept in place to avoid a special prosecutor, is that he isn't in some long winded case involving dubious charges that gets loads of media attention. Who wants to be the prosecutor known mostly for losing a case?

So misleading. “Appointed by Trump”.  Yes- based on the high recommendation from the 2 Dem Senators from that state.  Trump never heard of Weiss before that.  And he is a Dem.  

No. You can't use the plea bargain as evidence for guilt to turn around and charge the defendant with a more serious crime. That would defeat the purpose of the plea bargain. Also probably violate the rules of evidence.

What more serious crime was charged in this case?  He accepted a diversion on the gun charge.  He lied on the application, this is known.  It is not in dispute by anyone relevant.

What more serious crime was charged in this case?  He accepted a diversion on the gun charge.  He lied on the application, this is known.  It is not in dispute by anyone relevant.

Yes, because they have an agreement. If they didn't have an agreement, there would be a dispute. 

This is circular.  I don't think anyone denies he falsified/lied on the form.

That is a crime.  How it is handled is a separate issue.  I'm not sure of course what is left to investigate, beyond various allegations by Republicans.

Weiss's office said in a statement: "Hunter Biden received taxable income in excess of $1,500,000 annually in calendar years 2017 and 2018. Despite owing in excess of $100,000 in federal income taxes each year, he did not pay the income tax due for either year." 

Regarding the gun charge, the statement said that "from on or about October 12, 2018 through October 23, 2018, Hunter Biden possessed a firearm despite knowing he was an unlawful user of and addicted to a controlled substance."
Weiss's office also said its investigation continues.

This thread is humorous.  

Virtually nobody in the Biden camp, Washington D.C., the liberal media- talking heads- is disputing that Hunter Biden failed to pay taxes due, and lied on a gun application ( a felony). 

But we have people here taking the position that he took plea deals on both, not because he actually committed the crimes, but to compromise to an acceptable conclusion. 

Classic