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Honestbuckeye

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« Reply #23394 on: May 09, 2023, 10:08:41 AM »
No solution is worth mentioning if it's falling on deaf ears.
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« Reply #23395 on: May 09, 2023, 10:10:56 AM »
In a few years I'll be looking at 60. I'm thinking of maybe taking my entire Roth at that time and pay off the house, and then maybe even retire. Any insight on this idea? I have not talked to our planner about this at all.
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« Reply #23396 on: May 09, 2023, 11:09:52 AM »
In a few years I'll be looking at 60. I'm thinking of maybe taking my entire Roth at that time and pay off the house, and then maybe even retire. Any insight on this idea? I have not talked to our planner about this at all.
I would look at my interest rate on my mortgage and what my "expected" rate of return on your Roth.  As long I am getting more of a return on my investments than what I am paying on my house, I wouldn't pay off my mortgage.  You can pull out as you need to make payments and at any time you think that your returns won't exceed your mortgage rate pay off the house. 

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« Reply #23397 on: May 09, 2023, 11:26:39 AM »
I see the echo chamber is in full force this morning.
Or maybe you don't understand anything not in your head. You say half of the country doesn't even think there's a problem. That's not true.

The issue is that different people have different ideas of what the problems are. And sometimes, although you can't comprehend this, they look at what you think are solutions and to them your solutions make the problems worse. 

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« Reply #23398 on: May 09, 2023, 11:27:40 AM »
I would look at my interest rate on my mortgage and what my "expected" rate of return on your Roth.  As long I am getting more of a return on my investments than what I am paying on my house, I wouldn't pay off my mortgage.  You can pull out as you need to make payments and at any time you think that your returns won't exceed your mortgage rate pay off the house.
Thanks.

Interest rates will be the key, I think. We did a 30 with the 10-year ARM increase (or decrease but I doubt it) with the idea of having it paid off. So far, the decision is sound. But it's really all about where rates will be in 7 years.
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« Reply #23399 on: May 09, 2023, 11:43:01 AM »
That is good advice from RiffRaft. 

Take into account 2 other things. What is the amount of tax deduction on your mortgage interest and therefore the actual interest rate and what is the new tax rate for the interest earned on your Roth.

There’s a good chance you will want to keep your tax deductions on your interest. As long as you retain the ability to pay off your mortgage, that door will always be open.
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« Reply #23400 on: May 09, 2023, 11:58:15 AM »
Or maybe you don't understand anything not in your head. You say half of the country doesn't even think there's a problem. That's not true.

The issue is that different people have different ideas of what the problems are. And sometimes, although you can't comprehend this, they look at what you think are solutions and to them your solutions make the problems worse.
I agree with you 90%.  I'd agree 100% except he never actually offers solutions, he just bemoans the status quo and disparages the people who are not 100% in lockstep agreement with him and his tribe.


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« Reply #23401 on: May 09, 2023, 12:20:11 PM »
I agree with you 90%.  I'd agree 100% except he never actually offers solutions, he just bemoans the status quo and disparages the people who are not 100% in lockstep agreement with him and his tribe.
Well he does offer solutions. He thinks that every problem is simple and it has a simple and obvious solution that he can see, and a bunch of dolts like us must just be evil if we don't think his solution is great. 

I.e. take 24/7 cable news. He thinks the problem with the news is the profit motive and the desire for ratings. So just take a certain number of hours each day that if you call yourself a "news" organization you have to present w/o advertisements. And of course you can only present the news in a factual and unbiased way, and of course only someone as learned as OAM and his ilk will be able to determine whether or not you're doing it to their satisfaction.  

Of course, looking at this closely, every news organization will know that capturing viewers during his "factual non-ad time slot" is building an audience that will join you before and after that time slot. So in reality, you're just going to get the same behavior as you have now, because they know the spillover effects of having high ratings during those time slots will bleed into the unregulated time where they're selling ads. 

But when you're OAM, such a "simple" problem can just be magically fixed with his simple stroke-of-the-pen solution. It's obvious!

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« Reply #23402 on: May 09, 2023, 12:50:52 PM »
How bout we let the information highway remain free

and the decision as to what to listen to remain with us
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« Reply #23403 on: May 09, 2023, 12:56:03 PM »
That is good advice from RiffRaft.

Take into account 2 other things. What is the amount of tax deduction on your mortgage interest and therefore the actual interest rate and what is the new tax rate for the interest earned on your Roth.

There’s a good chance you will want to keep your tax deductions on your interest. As long as you retain the ability to pay off your mortgage, that door will always be open.
Since the wife retired we take the standard deduction. Before, we gave a ton to charity (education and healthcare) so we could itemize then. Not as much anymore. Property tax is embarrassingly low here. Up in Chicago that tax alone exceeded SALT by FAR. We can't even get close to SALT now - good.

The Roths (I have two - one traditional managed investments and one for self-directed real estate) will be tax-free upon taking it. Everything in there is simply mine.
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« Reply #23404 on: May 09, 2023, 12:56:40 PM »
How bout we let the information highway remain free

and the decision as to what to listen to remain with us
Censorship has become a big problem. 
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« Reply #23405 on: May 09, 2023, 01:23:04 PM »
Well he does offer solutions. He thinks that every problem is simple and it has a simple and obvious solution that he can see, and a bunch of dolts like us must just be evil if we don't think his solution is great.

I.e. take 24/7 cable news. He thinks the problem with the news is the profit motive and the desire for ratings. So just take a certain number of hours each day that if you call yourself a "news" organization you have to present w/o advertisements. And of course you can only present the news in a factual and unbiased way, and of course only someone as learned as OAM and his ilk will be able to determine whether or not you're doing it to their satisfaction. 

Of course, looking at this closely, every news organization will know that capturing viewers during his "factual non-ad time slot" is building an audience that will join you before and after that time slot. So in reality, you're just going to get the same behavior as you have now, because they know the spillover effects of having high ratings during those time slots will bleed into the unregulated time where they're selling ads.

But when you're OAM, such a "simple" problem can just be magically fixed with his simple stroke-of-the-pen solution. It's obvious!
When it come to those posts, I’ve taken to just scrolling past them and most responses. Makes the thread cleaner.

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« Reply #23406 on: May 09, 2023, 01:26:35 PM »
Censorship has become a big problem.
It’s an odd space. 

The issue is it’s hard to define and we very, very often fall into tribal camps when it comes to what gets called out as “censorship.” 

It also feeds into a perpetuation of victimhood that is now woven into our discussion of policy. 

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« Reply #23407 on: May 09, 2023, 01:28:54 PM »
I see the echo chamber is in full force this morning.
your new attempts at slithering about are no more successful than your previous ones.
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