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« Reply #20972 on: January 24, 2023, 10:37:09 AM »
Ask a Wine Pro: What Should I Do With the Cork When My Server Presents It? | VinePair

When a server extends their hand and a freshly popped cork lands in front of you, there’s a failsafe way to handle the situation. “If the cork is given to you, take it, say ‘thank you so much,’ and set it right down,” Beavers says. If a sommelier believes that the presentation of the cork serves some greater purpose, they might encourage you to pick it back up and give you instructions on what to do next. Most likely, though, once you’ve set the cork down, the job is done.

Some diners might be tempted to sniff the cork before they place it back on the table — a practice that, Beavers explains, can be used to see if a wine is corked. It might not be worth your time to do this, though. “There is no science to prove that smelling a cork is an indication of cork taint in the bottle,” he says. “There’s also this weird thought that smelling the cork is like smelling the wine. If you’re smelling the cork, you’re just smelling the wine soaked into an organic material that has its own aromas.”



I always take a look at the cork to see if it's in really poor shape and/or has been compromised.  A good sommelier should have already checked this and sent back anything with a cork that is obviously compromised, but honestly at most restaurants I go to regularly, it's actually a server doing the job.  

Beyond that, I don't do anything.  I'm certainly not sophisticated enough to be able to determine if a wine has been corked simply by smelling the cork, even if such a thing were possible, which many (including the article) suggest is not.

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« Reply #20973 on: January 24, 2023, 10:41:20 AM »
Love reading the home defense posts. I approach home defense a little differently, I'm more worried about collateral damage, than any property being taken or damaged. My daughters bedroom goes across the steps to our downstairs. I live is suburbia and a house to my west is only 16 feet away from mine.

Those Desert Eagles you guys are toting can go through 4 walls and still have stopping power, I don't want that. So I have a Ruger .45 in our bedroom fire safe with cowboy load (2/3 the power of a regular bullet.) It will still put a hole in a person right in front of me, (or at the bottom of my steps,) but won't make it through 2 sheets of dry way and kill my kid or neighbor. If there is a threat in my house (but not my bedroom) I can open the safe in under 3 seconds and have firepower protection at the ready. My wife and I both take annual gun safety course and I drag her to the range at least once more a year. (Me and my buddies will go out 6+ times to practice.)

I also have a short ninja sword that is bedside (2 fencing classes at OSU, and 4 years of Kendo classes) it's my goto to investigate, like if I hear a strange noise or my dog barks.

We also have a 45 lb pointer that will raise a ruckus if there any strangers/noises she doesn't recognize. (She's more likely to hear that noise before me.) I'd bet it's over a dozen times now that she a barked me awake, and I end up wondering around my house flipping lights on carrying a sheathed sword before figuring out theres a nocturnal animal outside that caught her attention.

I sleep easy at night confident my family is safe.

I've learned a ton of things from this board over the years, perhaps none more important than what you talked about here.  

Years ago when I was still living in Austin, the missing poster Burny was talking about needing to have a plan and understanding about home layout and how many walls is the bullet from your particular gun likely to get through, and do you know which walls your other family are sleeping behind, etc. 

My brother-in-law, cousin, and multiple friends are cops, who have taught me some basics over the years in hopes I'd defend my home and family if I ever had to.  They never mentioned any of that, and I never thought of it.  

BE mentioned he knew some guy who would come take a look at your home, weapon, etc. and help you figure out a good plan for various scenarios.  I've never know anybody like that and probably couldn't afford to pay them, but at least I've tried to think about that stuff and have an understanding of situations where I do and don't want to fire a weapon.  (I mean, obviously I never want to have to fire a weapon, but you know what I mean.)

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« Reply #20974 on: January 24, 2023, 10:46:08 AM »
of course Burnt knew a guy ;)
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« Reply #20975 on: January 24, 2023, 10:47:52 AM »
The cork from a badly corked/corky wine will smell badly.  But you're better off smelling the wine itself.


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« Reply #20976 on: January 24, 2023, 10:49:09 AM »
Love reading the home defense posts. I approach home defense a little differently, I'm more worried about collateral damage, than any property being taken or damaged. My daughters bedroom goes across the steps to our downstairs. I live is suburbia and a house to my west is only 16 feet away from mine.

Those Desert Eagles you guys are toting can go through 4 walls and still have stopping power, I don't want that. So I have a Ruger .45 in our bedroom fire safe with cowboy load (2/3 the power of a regular bullet.) It will still put a hole in a person right in front of me, (or at the bottom of my steps,) but won't make it through 2 sheets of dry way and kill my kid or neighbor. If there is a threat in my house (but not my bedroom) I can open the safe in under 3 seconds and have firepower protection at the ready. My wife and I both take annual gun safety course and I drag her to the range at least once more a year. (Me and my buddies will go out 6+ times to practice.)

I also have a short ninja sword that is bedside (2 fencing classes at OSU, and 4 years of Kendo classes) it's my goto to investigate, like if I hear a strange noise or my dog barks.

We also have a 45 lb pointer that will raise a ruckus if there any strangers/noises she doesn't recognize. (She's more likely to hear that noise before me.) I'd bet it's over a dozen times now that she a barked me awake, and I end up wondering around my house flipping lights on carrying a sheathed sword before figuring out theres a nocturnal animal outside that caught her attention.

I sleep easy at night confident my family is safe.
I read this and the first thing that popped into my mind was.....



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« Reply #20977 on: January 24, 2023, 10:49:40 AM »
yup

I've not been handed the screw cap for inspection or smelling

yet

more and more screw caps on wine

probably for the best
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« Reply #20978 on: January 24, 2023, 10:49:51 AM »
Beyond that, I don't do anything.  I'm certainly not sophisticated enough to be able to determine if a wine has been corked simply by smelling the cork, even if such a thing were possible, which many (including the article) suggest is not.
The sommelier at our wine bar actually brought out a bottle that we'd selected, uncorked it, he smelled the cork and said the wine was corked. He actually took the time to explain how to test it as well, and let us taste the wine so we'd know the difference, before bringing the fresh bottle. 

The cork smelled a little rank and musty. I.e. like wine with a hint of gym sock. The wine itself just tasted "off". And obviously completely different than the fresh bottle. 

What was interesting is that the corked bottle didn't taste terrible. It didn't taste *good*, but I'm sure my wife and I would have just thought it was a wine we didn't like, not actively thought the bottle was ruined by being corked, if we hadn't learned what corked wine smells and tastes like. 

So now, I smell the cork when I open a bottle of wine. 

We've only run into one instance since while out at a restaurant, and that was a wine my wife ordered by the glass. She got it, tasted it, said this isn't right. Had me taste it, and I agreed. They poured her a glass from a new bottle of the same wine and all was well. 

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« Reply #20979 on: January 24, 2023, 10:53:49 AM »
The problem with "corky" wines is they aren't always off the rails corky, they can be slightly off.  And you may not know the wine very well, if at all.  I let my wife taste, she has better senses than me in taste and smell.  A lightly corky wine can just be rather flat and somewhat insipid without the rank basement/old wet socks odor.

There apparently is a single compound that causes this, trichloroanisole, that is produced by some microorganisms in the cork washing operation apparently.  It can get loose in a wine making operation and damage the entire run.

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« Reply #20980 on: January 24, 2023, 10:56:50 AM »
The problem with "corky" wines is they aren't always off the rails corky, they can be slightly off.  And you may not know the wine very well, if at all.  I let my wife taste, she has better senses than me in taste and smell.  A lightly corky wine can just be rather flat and somewhat insipid without the rank basement/old wet socks odor.

There apparently is a single compound that causes this, trichloroanisole, that is produced by some microorganisms in the cork washing operation apparently.  It can get loose in a wine making operation and damage the entire run.
Yeah, this was the case with the wine bar. It was a wine we'd never had, so if we hadn't known what corked wine tastes like, we would have assumed that it was intended to taste like that. We probably would have just thought "well let's not order that one again!"

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« Reply #20981 on: January 24, 2023, 10:58:26 AM »
If it's a decent restaurant, you can always ask for the "sommelier" to come check the wine for a third opinion.  

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« Reply #20982 on: January 24, 2023, 12:03:38 PM »
If they'd just drink the stuff instead of looking,swirling,smelling and surmising - wouldn't need a damn cork/cap as there'd be nothing left. Which i think is the whole idea,damn spinsterish saps
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« Reply #20983 on: January 24, 2023, 12:14:21 PM »
I like the "Stelvin closures" (screwcaps) for nearly all wines folks really consume.  I understand the equipment is a bit expensive, but corks can cost over a buck each.  You'll find better wines have longer corks.

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« Reply #20984 on: January 24, 2023, 12:43:56 PM »
Yup I'd love to see some screwtop Chateau Margaux.  But them snooty French will never do it.

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« Reply #20985 on: January 24, 2023, 12:56:59 PM »
Love reading the home defense posts. I approach home defense a little differently, I'm more worried about collateral damage, than any property being taken or damaged. My daughters bedroom goes across the steps to our downstairs. I live is suburbia and a house to my west is only 16 feet away from mine.

Those Desert Eagles you guys are toting can go through 4 walls and still have stopping power, I don't want that. So I have a Ruger .45 in our bedroom fire safe with cowboy load (2/3 the power of a regular bullet.) It will still put a hole in a person right in front of me, (or at the bottom of my steps,) but won't make it through 2 sheets of dry way and kill my kid or neighbor. If there is a threat in my house (but not my bedroom) I can open the safe in under 3 seconds and have firepower protection at the ready. My wife and I both take annual gun safety course and I drag her to the range at least once more a year. (Me and my buddies will go out 6+ times to practice.)

I also have a short ninja sword that is bedside (2 fencing classes at OSU, and 4 years of Kendo classes) it's my goto to investigate, like if I hear a strange noise or my dog barks.

We also have a 45 lb pointer that will raise a ruckus if there any strangers/noises she doesn't recognize. (She's more likely to hear that noise before me.) I'd bet it's over a dozen times now that she a barked me awake, and I end up wondering around my house flipping lights on carrying a sheathed sword before figuring out theres a nocturnal animal outside that caught her attention.

I sleep easy at night confident my family is safe.
My Eagle is NOT the .50 cal cannon you are thinking of. Mine is the 9mm Baby Eagle developed by Israili Arms and licsensed to Magnum Research for manufacture in the US. It will not shot through schools. :)

Even so, being as I live in the country, my closest neighbor is a 1/4 mile away and by shooting range is outside my back door. 

That said, I sleep well at night and never really worry about intruders. More often than not, if I am awakened in the middle of the night, it is by my dog, barking at some nocturnal animal wondering around the house. I have NEVER grabbed my gun in this situation. I usually just stumble to where ever my dog is and see what he is barking about, then make a quick trip to the head before attempting to get back to sleep. If I ever do have a situation were I may need my gun, I am confident that the dog will keep the intruder busy allowing me to go back to the bedroom to retrieve it. 


 

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