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« Reply #18886 on: August 28, 2022, 10:25:48 AM »

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« Reply #18887 on: August 28, 2022, 10:35:53 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #18888 on: August 28, 2022, 10:45:49 AM »
We had lunch with our friend who is a long time realtor here.  He said the market is still crazy here.  He had 21 offers on one house he had listed.  He then said he had seen other fairly similar houses just sitting with no offers because they had been over priced, though the listing price was less than what other houses would finally get.  His problem is he can't come up with a decent listing price, and scarily, he said the banks are giving out loans because their appraisers are apprasing with high prices now, they can't figure it out either.  Willing buyer etc.

He has never seen this kind of market in his career, and he's been through hot markets before of course.  Single family is just red hot, inside the perimeter, outside, far outside, buyers are in a panic mode getting transferred here and HAVING to find a house to get their kids settled.  And those who come from CA/NY of course find these prices to be very reasonable.  I think we're headed for a collapse, but I don't know when of course, and neither does he.  The banks will end up with loans far in excess of market prices.


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« Reply #18889 on: August 28, 2022, 11:24:55 AM »
A government program ....

Officials in 2012 estimated that the SLS rocket would cost $6 billion to develop, debut in 2017 and carry a $500 million per launch price tag. But the rocket is only just now debuting, having cost more than $20 billion to develop, and its per launch price tag has ballooned to $4.1 billion.
NASA’s Inspector General, its internal auditor, earlier this year said Artemis is not the “sustainable” moon program that the agency’s officials say it is. The watchdog found more than $40 billion has already been spent on the program, and projected NASA would spend $93 billion on the effort through 2025 – when the first landing is planned.

But even that 2025 date is in doubt, according to NASA’s Inspector General, which said that development technologies needed to land on the moon’s surface are unlikely to be ready before 2026, at the earliest.
NASA’s Artemis plan relies on the success of another monster rocket as well: SpaceX’s Starship. The agency last year awarded SpaceX with a $2.9 billion contract to develop a moon-specific version of the rocket to serve as the crew lunar lander for the Artemis III mission.
SpaceX began testing of its Starship spacecraft in earnest in 2019, but that rocket has yet to reach orbit.
A host of aerospace contractors across the U.S. support the hardware, infrastructure and software for NASA’s Artemis I – BoeingLockheed MartinNorthrop GrummanAerojet Rocketdyne and Jacobs lead the effort. According to NASA, the Artemis program supports about 70,000 jobs around the country.



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« Reply #18890 on: August 28, 2022, 11:27:38 AM »
as with money spent on climate change............

what's the ROI on that space program project?

while we're at it, what's the ROI on the student loan forgiveness spending
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« Reply #18891 on: August 28, 2022, 11:29:42 AM »
At least with CC, one could roughly estimate ROI, I don't think one can with space efforts.

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« Reply #18892 on: August 28, 2022, 11:34:06 AM »
so, space money is just fun money?

with a hope we get something positive out of it someday?
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« Reply #18893 on: August 28, 2022, 11:39:23 AM »
I'd view it that way, yes, it's part of the human desire to explore and understand.  I think much of it is better done with "drones", not humans.  But there is also a longer term probability we need to establish a long term presence on another planet.

This Artemis rocket design strikes me as using obsolete tech in an attempt to keep costs down.  It's a blunt force approach.

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« Reply #18894 on: August 28, 2022, 01:04:17 PM »
I'd view it that way, yes, it's part of the human desire to explore and understand.  I think much of it is better done with "drones", not humans.  But there is also a longer term probability we need to establish a long term presence on another planet.

This Artemis rocket design strikes me as using obsolete tech in an attempt to keep costs down.  It's a blunt force approach.
It’s a jobs program and nothing else. It keeps the company making the space shuttle main engines in business ( Aerojet Rocketdyne), the company making the side solid boosters, and Boeing who makes the core stage. 

it won’t even be as capable as the Saturn V which we retired in the early 70’s. It can’t even take a lander to get down to the surface because it doesn’t have enough thrust and the Orion capsule is much heavier than its Apollo counterpart. It’s useless as it comes, and it’s expensive. The senators who pushed this pile of junk should be tarred and feathered. 

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« Reply #18895 on: August 28, 2022, 01:13:45 PM »
I’d like to go see the launch, it should still be very impressive and it will the the most powerful operational rocket in the world.  It may also be the only time it launches. The next flight, dubbed Artemis II won’t fly until ‘24 or ‘25 at the earliest. It will be a repeat of Apollo 8, flying a crewed mission around the moon and back to earth. The media won’t cover it much but the Orion capsule on this flight isn’t even capable of carrying a crew because it doesn’t have any life support systems. They are flying a test capsule. 

Btw, NASA was so daring for Apollo8 that the very first time a Saturn V rocket launched a Apollo CSM they flew to the moon and orbited it. They were afraid the soviets would beat them to it and at the time the Russians had pretty much beat us to everything else in space. 

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« Reply #18897 on: August 28, 2022, 01:33:46 PM »
If you had shown this to me in 1970, I would have looked askance ...

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« Reply #18898 on: August 28, 2022, 02:04:49 PM »
Best Low level flying Mach loop Highlights 2021, RAF & USAF F-15 Strike Eagle Low Flying of 2021 (alurmedya.com)
Best Low level flying Mach loop Highlights 2021, RAF & USAF F-15 Strike Eagle Low Flying of 2021 (alurmedya.com)

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« Reply #18899 on: August 28, 2022, 06:12:52 PM »
F/15 is an awesome plane. It never got as much press/ Hollywood time as other jets but has held its own and is still very formidable. 

 

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