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« Reply #17934 on: July 13, 2022, 09:32:29 AM »
The charitable trust thing is a good idea if you have some money to set aside for future donations and are in an unusually high income year.


especially if you can scrape cash off the charitable contribution to spend
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« Reply #17935 on: July 13, 2022, 09:36:42 AM »
I have a charitable trust, I don't see a viable way to scrape cash off it.  They are pretty sticky about who can get a donation.

I got paid two years of salary in one my last year working.  My money guy explained this concept to me and we set it up, has been marvelous, especially now that donations aren't deductable any more unless you write off a lot.

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« Reply #17937 on: July 13, 2022, 09:55:39 AM »
the most in 40 years

back when I was in College and the future looked bleak for young people

it turned out OK
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« Reply #17938 on: July 13, 2022, 09:56:34 AM »
I started my job in 1980 and felt lucky to find one.  I applied for a loan on a condo a year later and the best rate I could find was 17.5% on a 30 year fixed.

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« Reply #17939 on: July 13, 2022, 09:57:13 AM »
I have a charitable trust, I don't see a viable way to scrape cash off it.  They are pretty sticky about who can get a donation.

I'm guessing billionaire donors are a bit more slippery

but that's just the peasants being cynical 
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« Reply #17940 on: July 13, 2022, 10:26:44 AM »
I used this cap gains calculator to get nearly $7 million in taxes on a $20 million sale (near zero cost basis).

2022 Capital Gains Tax Calculator - See What You'll Owe - SmartAsset
2022 Capital Gains Tax Calculator - See What You'll Owe - SmartAsset

There is that 3.8% Medicare add on plus NJ state tax.  If a wealthy person chooses not to pay income tax, they can, and they often do.  It's an entirely legal dodge.

Fortunately I don't have this problem, I just pay income tax and have used the standard deduction the past three years.


I used you calculator above and dont come up anywhere near $7 million
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« Reply #17941 on: July 13, 2022, 11:08:34 AM »
 I get $6.858 million, once again.  I set the state to NJ.

That sounds about right to me.

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« Reply #17942 on: July 13, 2022, 11:16:14 AM »
I get $6.858 million, once again.  I set the state to NJ.

That sounds about right to me.
do you really think a multi millionaire would live in New Jersey

Thats the tax capital of the world
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« Reply #17943 on: July 13, 2022, 11:18:53 AM »
they probably aren't moving to South Dakota
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« Reply #17944 on: July 13, 2022, 11:19:42 AM »
do you really think a multi millionaire would live in New Jersey

Thats the tax capital of the world
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« Reply #17945 on: July 13, 2022, 11:20:36 AM »
they probably aren't moving to South Dakota
I'm assuming it's like corporations and they can claim they live wherever.  Multi-billionaires can have residences all over.  You claim the one in the most tax-friendly state as your primary and go from there, right?


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« Reply #17946 on: July 13, 2022, 11:29:04 AM »
do you really think a multi millionaire would live in New Jersey

Thats the tax capital of the world
They might if they had no income.  Pick a state, another state, and I'll run it.  We'll go with Texas and no income tax.

$4.735 million.  That is a lot more than paying a low interest loan.


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« Reply #17947 on: July 13, 2022, 11:31:07 AM »
I'm assuming it's like corporations and they can claim they live wherever.  Multi-billionaires can have residences all over.  You claim the one in the most tax-friendly state as your primary and go from there, right?


fine but you would not claim New Jersey

if you do you might as well just throw all your money out the window
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