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« Reply #15064 on: March 29, 2022, 03:44:15 PM »
If a thing is impossible, I don't pine for it, or worry about it, or wish it were true.  Term limits are effectively an impossibility.

I tend to doubt Gates sends media companies money for favors.  I don't think he has much need for an expensive PR kind of campaign.  If he does, he'd do it differently than just sending checks.

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« Reply #15065 on: March 29, 2022, 03:47:24 PM »
Florida officials fight back against rowdy spring breakers (msn.com)
Miami Beach imposed liquor sale bans at 6pm and curfews at midnight.

Miami Beach has gotten so bad. It's sad to see. I wasn't around in Miami in the late 70s or 80s but heard it was pretty bad- cocaine cowboys and all that shit. But in the 90s and 2000-2010 - I was there a lot and it was a lot nicer then than it is now. My god it's a shithlole side show zoo now. And it seems to be getting worse every year now, not better.

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« Reply #15066 on: March 29, 2022, 03:52:59 PM »
If a thing is impossible, I don't pine for it, or worry about it, or wish it were true.  Term limits are effectively an impossibility.

I tend to doubt Gates sends media companies money for favors.  I don't think he has much need for an expensive PR kind of campaign.  If he does, he'd do it differently than just sending checks.
And why are they effectively an impossibility? pure out and out corruption, that's why.

It's not that he sends them money for favors. The mere fact ALONE that he has sent them $320 million in like the last decade alone is preposterous to me.

And it's not necessarily about an expensive PR campaign. It's the fact that if you're a media organization taking this guys money- and you want that money to keep rolling in- you're going to 100% self-censor when it comes to anything Bill Gates.

These are just human beings that run these companies- and a lot of them are losing money and desperate for cash these days. And human beings are prone to corruption and being influenced by money- like every human being on planet earth. Which is why it's a great idea to just not have that money element allowed in in the first place. Gates has given $25 million to NPR alone. You don't think that has any influence on their coverage of him or anything related to him? Yeah, of course it does. He's given The Guardian $13 million. He's given CNN almost $4 million.

If someone gives you $25 million or even $4 million, you're going to get on your knees and fellate him at every opportunity. Which is exactly what NPR and CNN does.


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« Reply #15068 on: March 29, 2022, 04:02:13 PM »
NPR needs to be defunded.
yup. defund NPR, not the police.

unfortunately NPR seems to be a pet of Bill Gates' so they aren't ever going to get defunded...

LAST AUGUST, NPR PROFILED A HARVARD-LED EXPERIMENT to help low-income families find housing in wealthier neighborhoods, giving their children access to better schools and an opportunity to “break the cycle of poverty.” According to researchers cited in the article, these children could see $183,000 greater earnings over their lifetimes—a striking forecast for a housing program still in its experimental stage.

If you squint as you read the story, you’ll notice that every quoted expert is connected to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which helps fund the project. And if you’re really paying attention, you’ll also see the editor’s note at the end of the story, which reveals that NPR itself receives funding from Gates.

NPR’s funding from Gates “was not a factor in why or how we did the story,” reporter Pam Fessler says, adding that her reporting went beyond the voices quoted in her article. The story, nevertheless, is one of hundreds NPR has reported about the Gates Foundation or the work it funds, including myriad favorable pieces written from the perspective of Gates or its grantees.

And that speaks to a larger trend—and ethical issue—with billionaire philanthropists’ bankrolling the news. The Broad Foundation, whose philanthropic agenda includes promoting charter schools, at one point funded part of the LA Times’ reporting on education. Charles Koch has made charitable donations to journalistic institutions such as the Poynter Institute, as well as to news organizations such as the Daily Caller News Foundation, that support his conservative politics. And the Rockefeller Foundation funds Vox’s Future Perfect, a reporting project that examines the world “through the lens of effective altruism”—often looking at philanthropy.

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php

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« Reply #15069 on: March 29, 2022, 04:05:16 PM »

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« Reply #15070 on: March 29, 2022, 04:24:06 PM »
I can't see how Gates can send money to CNN or whoever.  NPR sure, they take donations.  Just alleging he somehow does isn't real evidence to me.  

And it doesn't matter WHY we won't have term limits, it only matters that it will NOT happen, the reasons are obvious.  So, I don't wish we had them anymore than I wish I could win the lottery.  We're not going to have term limits on Congress, so why present it as a desirable option?

Maybe in theoretical world somewhere.

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« Reply #15071 on: March 29, 2022, 04:29:49 PM »
How would a person donate money to media companies?  I want to get in on this.

Can I just write a check to CNN?

In the above situation, money in news media, I think the cure would be worse than the illness.  What folks REALLY want is for the news to be covered the way THEY want it covered.  Sorry, we don't need that at all.
Grants. Companies can apply for funding for a specific project or some such thing.

But the issue remains the same knotty thing. People want to be told the thing that inspires the strong emotions. Much of this thread is a monument to that. We’re oft uncritical about whatever makes us feel most right. Like the majority of our political fireballs start with “media coverage” that hits us at just the right pitch,

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« Reply #15072 on: March 29, 2022, 04:38:54 PM »
What is one example of a grant by Gates to CNN or NBC?


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« Reply #15073 on: March 29, 2022, 04:56:47 PM »
What is one example of a grant by Gates to CNN or NBC?


They did $3.6 million for some kind of reporting about equality, I think in the developing world. That was in 2020, a year when CNN brought in $1.665 billion.

As far as I can tell, that’s the only CNN contribution.

In the early to mid-2010s, they donated for three years to support some kind of education-focused reporting. That totaled $4.37 million, to a company that I believe made more than $20 billion per year in those years.

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« Reply #15074 on: March 29, 2022, 05:07:35 PM »
So, if I understand this properly, CNN et al. on occasion seek grants to produce shows that otherwise would be commercially ill advised?

And these shows are not necessarily showing some individual in a good light, they are just about various and sundry?  

That's a bit different than just writing a check to get better coverage of the individual personally.  If I'm concerned about say climate change and have the funds to sponsor an hour long show on the topic, well, sounds OK to me.  It might be seen as an inconvenient truth to some, perhaps.

I recall when the fat dude generated movies about this and that topic to make some socially responsible impact about bowling for flowers or something.


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« Reply #15075 on: March 29, 2022, 05:13:23 PM »
So, if I understand this properly, CNN et al. on occasion seek grants to produce shows that otherwise would be commercially ill advised?

And these shows are not necessarily showing some individual in a good light, they are just about various and sundry? 

That's a bit different than just writing a check to get better coverage of the individual personally.  If I'm concerned about say climate change and have the funds to sponsor an hour long show on the topic, well, sounds OK to me.  It might be seen as an inconvenient truth to some, perhaps.


Pretty much.

I’m rich, I care about such and such an issue. Org X wants to report on such an issue, I throw some cash toward that.

At the base, I do think it’s problematic, but in a deeply mundane way.

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« Reply #15076 on: March 29, 2022, 10:18:47 PM »
priorities. Terry Pegula is worth only around $6 billion. Not like he couldn't self-fund the stadium. Had to ask the state of NY for help. Lol. 


https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1508482949418737665?s=20&t=Wm_fnjn6d1IzwLwzUO4unA

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« Reply #15077 on: March 29, 2022, 10:24:04 PM »
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Elect stupid people, fund stupid boondoggles.


 

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