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« Reply #14602 on: March 17, 2022, 01:11:20 PM »
These are stories we tell ourselves to make due for the fact that we are so dependent on Saudi Arabia that we roll over and play dead when they hack up our journalists. Which isn't to say rolling over and playing dead isn't the wisest move, but you can be danged sure it is spineless. In any event, there have been ten thousand reasons to move away from dependence on Saudi Arabia, this being just the messiest and most disrespectful to us.
One thing we could do is open up drilling here in America. But President Brain Damage and the left wing is doing everything in their power to make that impossible. And as has been stated, we are tied to gasoline and diesel for the foreseeable future. 

So the immediate question is, what are we as a nation, going to do to keep the gasoline flowing without bankrupting the citizens in the process?

As you know, the price of gas/diesel affects everything in our lives. It is now the time of year for farmers to be getting into the fields to plant crops for this years harvest. I don't know how it is wherever you live, but here those farmers tractors burn diesel fuel and use probably 100 gallons a day. As the price of diesel has doubled this year, it may cause some farmers to reconsider planting in some fields as their expected ROI will not cover their increase costs. This could translate into food shortages this fall and huge price spikes in farming commodities. 

How many people will begin to go hungry in this country, let alone those that depend upon the US for their food supplies? 

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« Reply #14603 on: March 17, 2022, 01:13:46 PM »
These are stories we tell ourselves to make due for the fact that we are so dependent on Saudi Arabia that we roll over and play dead when they hack up our journalists. Which isn't to say rolling over and playing dead isn't the wisest move, but you can be danged sure it is spineless. In any event, there have been ten thousand reasons to move away from dependence on Saudi Arabia, this being just the messiest and most disrespectful to us.
realpolitik. google it. Until the world isn't running on oil and as long as the US dollar is tied to oil trade- we need them. Period.

Saudi Arabia didn't hack up our journalists. Give me a f**king break with that already. Just STOP. Because it's verifiably not true and factually incorrect. He wasn't one of us. He wasn't "ours". The guy worked for the Washington Post for all of about 5 minutes. He was NOT an American. He was a SAUDI through and through. And the United States hasn't given a shit for 7 plus DECADES what the Saudis do to their own people. We really don't care and we really never have. For f**k sake the Saudis just publicly beheaded 81 people a few days ago and the very next day you had a high level US diplomat standing next to the Saudi general of the military police responsible for that mass murder in a photo op praising him for his efforts for spreading religious tolerance and trying to further democracy or whatever the hell the bullshit the diplomat from the Biden administration was spouting.

And you're really going to sit there and pretend the US cares about journalists at all when they have been trying to crush and DESTROY Julian Assange for almost a decade- all for the crime of publishing and exposing war crimes of the US government? It was even leaked/reported that the CIA floated plots to have Assange assassinated but couldn't figure out how to do it without creating an international catastrophe. Give me a break. This is laughable. Beyond laughable.

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« Reply #14605 on: March 17, 2022, 01:46:59 PM »
realpolitik. google it. Until the world isn't running on oil and as long as the US dollar is tied to oil trade- we need them. Period.

Saudi Arabia didn't hack up our journalists. Give me a f**king break with that already. Just STOP. Because it's verifiably not true and factually incorrect. He wasn't one of us. He wasn't "ours". The guy worked for the Washington Post for all of about 5 minutes. He was NOT an American. He was a SAUDI through and through. And the United States hasn't given a shit for 7 plus DECADES what the Saudis do to their own people. We really don't care and we really never have. For f**k sake the Saudis just publicly beheaded 81 people a few days ago and the very next day you had a high level US diplomat standing next to the Saudi general of the military police responsible for that mass murder in a photo op praising him for his efforts for spreading religious tolerance and trying to further democracy or whatever the hell the bullshit the diplomat from the Biden administration was spouting.

Again, these are fairy tales we have to tell ourselves because actually doing something about it is inconvenient. That's it. That's why we engage in these goofy stories about the guy who lived and worked in America and who was a big critic of Saudi Arabia actually had no ties to America. It's a fantasy. It's sick! 

But that is where we find ourselves, because making moves to make us less dependent on foreign oil is hard, and people like cheap gas, and we built nearly everything in this country on the promise of cheap gas, and so when gas fluctuates, suddenly we have to beg and cry like Trump did and we want Biden to do to please help make the gas cheaper. 

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« Reply #14606 on: March 17, 2022, 01:47:33 PM »
One thing we could do is open up drilling here in America. But President Brain Damage and the left wing is doing everything in their power to make that impossible. And as has been stated, we are tied to gasoline and diesel for the foreseeable future.

So the immediate question is, what are we as a nation, going to do to keep the gasoline flowing without bankrupting the citizens in the process?

As you know, the price of gas/diesel affects everything in our lives. It is now the time of year for farmers to be getting into the fields to plant crops for this years harvest. I don't know how it is wherever you live, but here those farmers tractors burn diesel fuel and use probably 100 gallons a day. As the price of diesel has doubled this year, it may cause some farmers to reconsider planting in some fields as their expected ROI will not cover their increase costs. This could translate into food shortages this fall and huge price spikes in farming commodities.

How many people will begin to go hungry in this country, let alone those that depend upon the US for their food supplies?
That's bad! We should do something about that!

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« Reply #14607 on: March 17, 2022, 01:49:18 PM »
How long would an electric combine work? 

17 minutes?
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #14608 on: March 17, 2022, 01:57:46 PM »
How long would an electric combine work?

17 minutes?
The good thing about farms is they don't get up and move that much. You could probably make a plug in combine.

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« Reply #14609 on: March 17, 2022, 01:58:45 PM »
Wireless electricity.

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« Reply #14610 on: March 17, 2022, 02:13:37 PM »
Good outcome :57:
Real good outcome, I paid $80 to fill my tank today.

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« Reply #14611 on: March 17, 2022, 02:19:33 PM »

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« Reply #14612 on: March 17, 2022, 02:29:35 PM »
said it then and I'll say it again....what's more likely? (a) Those pesky Russians set up an elaborate set-up operation and faked a laptop with fake emails! OR...... (b) a f**king CRACKHEAD/alcoholic smoked crack, drank drank, got high and drunk, dropped off a laptop on a binge and completely forgot about it.

Yeah, I'll go with option B.
Heh, I remember are one point you told us you had left an iPad with a sex video at the shop and just left it there because you didn’t feel like getting it. Good times. 

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« Reply #14613 on: March 17, 2022, 02:46:23 PM »
Problems can have short term approaches which could mitigate the problem, and longer term (years or decades) solutions.  The head of Oxy Pete said they couldn't produce more right now because of labor and material shortages.  There are a lot of open leases.  And production is recovering.  This is the shorter term approach.

I think Biden put his foot in it pandering to the Greens and then issued some EOs which I THINK had relatively little to do with production but sounded good (pandering).  Thus, he created the image he dampened production, because he meant to create that image. Maybe all that did have some slight impact.  I suspect it was nearly all optics, nor reality, and other factors are at play here.

I see folks on FB saying we should open the KXL pipeline to use AMERICAN oil, which says something about where some folks are these days.

I do think it's absurd to ask SA et al. to produce more while not at least reversing the optics of what was done internally, but he can't say that.

Now, longer term, EVs will reduce how much oil we need, but it really is long term.  I'm sure oil companies are looking at that trend and thinking about what they want to be in 2040.

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« Reply #14614 on: March 17, 2022, 02:55:41 PM »
Problems can have short term approaches which could mitigate the problem, and longer term (years or decades) solutions.  The head of Oxy Pete said they couldn't produce more right now because of labor and material shortages.  There are a lot of open leases.  And production is recovering.  This is the shorter term approach.

I think Biden put his foot in it pandering to the Greens and then issued some EOs which I THINK had relatively little to do with production but sounded good (pandering).  Thus, he created the image he dampened production, because he meant to create that image. Maybe all that did have some slight impact.  I suspect it was nearly all optics, nor reality, and other factors are at play here.

I see folks on FB saying we should open the KXL pipeline to use AMERICAN oil, which says something about where some folks are these days.

I do think it's absurd to ask SA et al. to produce more while not at least reversing the optics of what was done internally, but he can't say that.

Now, longer term, EVs will reduce how much oil we need, but it really is long term.  I'm sure oil companies are looking at that trend and thinking about what they want to be in 2040.
Cincy, this is too much levelheaded policy discussion. I’m gonna need you to say something emotional and short sighted about how some politician is clearly a moron for not pushing for some fantasy to make people feel good.

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« Reply #14615 on: March 17, 2022, 02:56:42 PM »
Some politician is clearly a moron.

 

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