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MaximumSam

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« Reply #14588 on: March 17, 2022, 10:16:26 AM »

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Jamal Khashoggi WAS NOT an American. He was Saudi Arabian, born and raised with Saudi citizenship. He lived in the US for 10 minutes and worked for the Washington Post for 5, and suddenly he's American? He wasn't. 
Hogwash. He had a degree from Indiana State and worked for the Post. He lived in America. American enough for me.
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« Reply #14589 on: March 17, 2022, 10:20:49 AM »
Someone who lives a while in a country is not a citizen of said country, obviously.  He lived here a bit over a year, and was not naturalized.  I'm not sure it matters really.

I don't like SA myself.
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« Reply #14590 on: March 17, 2022, 10:21:07 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 09:32:54 AM
What is a tool government could use here that would make a difference? 

The issue with gasoline is current and fairly urgent, some "plan" to do something years down the road might be OK, or not, but it's years down the road.
yup. 

Ford, GM, and Chrysler DO NOT even have the ability to mass produce EV's yet. Even if you wanted everyone to adopt EV's a year from now, you couldn't. It's going to take years for these companies to build/retrofit plants. GM built only 25,000 EVs last year. 

Tesla is the only EV manufacturer here building 1 million EVs a year- and they've been building EVs for 13-14 years and they finally just hit that mark last year. 

16-17+ million vehicles are sold in US every year. There is a massive short fall in production capacity to meet the demand for cars. It's not as simple as "hey everyone- go out and buy an EV!". There just are't that many EVs being built every year. 

GM says they're aiming to build 400,000 EVs a year by 2025. That's 3 years away from now- and still way short of where it would need to be for everyone to start adopting EVs.
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« Reply #14591 on: March 17, 2022, 10:23:13 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:20:49 AM
Someone who lives a while in a country is not a citizen of said country, obviously.  He lived here a bit over a year, and was not naturalized.  I'm not sure it matters really.

I don't like SA myself.
It matters a lot actually. If a ruler of another country kills an American citizen, well then... Houston, we have a problem. 

Like you said though, it's a matter of fact that he was not an American. 

I don't like SA much myself either, but realpolitik, and all. Need them. Is what it is.
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« Reply #14592 on: March 17, 2022, 10:25:28 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on March 17, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
Hogwash. He had a degree from Indiana State and worked for the Post. He lived in America. American enough for me.
lots of foreigners come to America to get degrees. That does not make them American. Living in America for a short while does not make you American. The guy was Saudi Arabian, and a member of a prominent family in Saudi Arabia at that.
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« Reply #14593 on: March 17, 2022, 10:31:28 AM »
I don't think it really would have made any difference had SA taken Biden's call.  They know what he wants.  They don't want to do it.

And it would be great to have enough EVs here to reduce our oil usage, but that day is way off in the future no matter how much we want it to be otherwise.  I'm fine with putting in more charging stations, if needed etc.  I just would like to see something better thought out than throwing money out there.

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« Reply #14594 on: March 17, 2022, 10:36:37 AM »
A 'Petroyuan' Could Further Shake the Dollar's Dominance (coindesk.com)
A 'Petroyuan' Could Further Shake the Dollar's Dominance (coindesk.com)
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« Reply #14595 on: March 17, 2022, 10:42:29 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:31:28 AM
I don't think it really would have made any difference had SA taken Biden's call.  They know what he wants.  They don't want to do it.

And it would be great to have enough EVs here to reduce our oil usage, but that day is way off in the future no matter how much we want it to be otherwise.  I'm fine with putting in more charging stations, if needed etc.  I just would like to see something better thought out than throwing money out there.
It's a HUGE slap in the face and massive sign of disrespect, and it makes America look bad on the world stage. It's a big deal. And Saudis don't want to do it- because MbS hates Biden. That is not a secret. And why does he hate Biden? Because President Shits-his-Pants was trashing MbS and Saudi Arabia on the campaign trail and when he first got into office he refused to speak with MbS. Now MbS is returning the favor. 
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« Reply #14596 on: March 17, 2022, 10:43:56 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:36:37 AM
A 'Petroyuan' Could Further Shake the Dollar's Dominance (coindesk.com)
A 'Petroyuan' Could Further Shake the Dollar's Dominance (coindesk.com)
thanks sanctions! 
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« Reply #14597 on: March 17, 2022, 10:52:10 AM »
I'm trying to semi-calculate when EVs will reduce our oil dependency, at all, e.g., when we would hit "peak oil usage" in the US.  It would normally grow of course with the economy, the gradual use of EVs at some point will start to diminish that.  It's years off of course no matter what we do shorter term.

Maybe by 2030 the number of EVs will balance the growth in transportation needs, barring recession.
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« Reply #14598 on: March 17, 2022, 10:54:06 AM »
New York Times finally admitting the Hunter Biden laptop is authentic and not "Russian disinformation" - after year plus of stories from that rag which tried to explain away/deny it. And it was obvious from the start the emails/laptop was real, as Hunter Biden, his father, nor his fathers campaign ever denied it. Not once.

Politco reporter Ben Schreckinger also wrote a book on the Biden's in which he authenticated the emails in the laptop using signatures inside the metadata.

Twitter/FB trying to censor New York Post reporting on it at the time was a disgrace, as was the letter from a bunch of former "intelligence officials" who claimed (without providing a shred of evidence) the laptop/emails had "all the hallmarks of classic Russian disinformation!"

What a joke.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-biden-laptop?s=w
https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/the-times-finally-admits-hunter-bidens-laptop-is-real/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html
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« Reply #14599 on: March 17, 2022, 10:58:49 AM »
said it then and I'll say it again....what's more likely? (a) Those pesky Russians set up an elaborate set-up operation and faked a laptop with fake emails! OR...... (b) a f**king CRACKHEAD/alcoholic smoked crack, drank drank, got high and drunk, dropped off a laptop on a binge and completely forgot about it.

Yeah, I'll go with option B.
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« Reply #14600 on: March 17, 2022, 11:54:18 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 17, 2022, 10:25:28 AM
lots of foreigners come to America to get degrees. That does not make them American. Living in America for a short while does not make you American. The guy was Saudi Arabian, and a member of a prominent family in Saudi Arabia at that.
These are stories we tell ourselves to make due for the fact that we are so dependent on Saudi Arabia that we roll over and play dead when they hack up our journalists. Which isn't to say rolling over and playing dead isn't the wisest move, but you can be danged sure it is spineless. In any event, there have been ten thousand reasons to move away from dependence on Saudi Arabia, this being just the messiest and most disrespectful to us.
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« Reply #14601 on: March 17, 2022, 12:58:49 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on March 17, 2022, 09:56:30 AM
Well, I don't have a spreadsheet of the costs in front of me. Surely there would be some. The benefit is having elasticity in our energy needs, less reliance on foreign countries that have some dubious leadership practices, cleaner air, better cities, better access for for people in rural areas. Probably a million other things. I'm pretty sanguine about the costs - we spent trillions on the war in Afghanistan and received no benefit - I could imagine we could spend a lot less and get a heck of a lot more.
The current electric grid in this country barely supports what we now have using electricity. California already has rolling brown outs during the summer months as they cannot keep the power on. Now you want to suddenly add millions of cars to that grid. Good luck with that.
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