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« Reply #14462 on: March 15, 2022, 07:55:37 PM »
Dear GOD electing Biden is even worse than I thought....this is the first major sign of potential US decline that I can see. Alarm bells should be going off. Saudi Arabia is literally giving the US two giant middle fingers right now, in large part because they hate Biden so bad.

Saudi Arabia invited Xi to the kingdom on an official state visit- meanwhile they refused to answer Biden's phone calls- and are now in talks to price oil sales to China in the yuan. This is unimaginable to me, as the deal to denominate the oil trade in US dollars was struck with the Saudis in the early 1970s- after Nixon killed Bretton Woods and delinked the US dollar from gold- is what kept the special status of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency and enhanced it to even greater heights.


China buys more than 25% of the oil that Saudi Arabia exports. China buys more than 45% of the oil that Russia exports. The two largest exporters of oil in the world are shifting away from the US dollar for oil transactions.

Yeah, so this is bad.


https://twitter.com/business/status/1503739315955933189?s=20&t=fLZjtVmhswmBxz1IVNWO-Q

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« Reply #14463 on: March 16, 2022, 03:51:53 AM »
Herschel Walker was a great college RB.

Not too bright, though.
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« Reply #14464 on: March 16, 2022, 06:09:25 AM »


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« Reply #14465 on: March 16, 2022, 06:29:49 AM »
Dear GOD electing Biden is even worse than I thought....this is the first major sign of potential US decline that I can see. Alarm bells should be going off. Saudi Arabia is literally giving the US two giant middle fingers right now, in large part because they hate Biden so bad.

Saudi Arabia invited Xi to the kingdom on an official state visit- meanwhile they refused to answer Biden's phone calls- and are now in talks to price oil sales to China in the yuan. This is unimaginable to me, as the deal to denominate the oil trade in US dollars was struck with the Saudis in the early 1970s- after Nixon killed Bretton Woods and delinked the US dollar from gold- is what kept the special status of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency and enhanced it to even greater heights.


China buys more than 25% of the oil that Saudi Arabia exports. China buys more than 45% of the oil that Russia exports. The two largest exporters of oil in the world are shifting away from the US dollar for oil transactions.

Yeah, so this is bad.


https://twitter.com/business/status/1503739315955933189?s=20&t=fLZjtVmhswmBxz1IVNWO-Q

This will be devastating to the US Economy.  But you won’t hear the “elected officials” talk about it much, nor their minion sheep in MSM or social media.  Two reasons:  they are too stupid to understand it or/ and, it strays from their current, themed talking points and narrative- all our economic problems are Putins fault.

The “hey- look over there” distraction theory.  Why else do you bring in TikTok influencers to the White House to help spread your “message” that all our problems regarding gas prices in inflation are Putin’s fault?
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« Reply #14466 on: March 16, 2022, 06:38:40 AM »
Saudi Switch to Yuan Seen as Symbolic, Not True Threat to Dollar - Bloomberg

Dollar Vs. Yuan: Saudis Eye Shift to China's Currency in Oil Deal (businessinsider.com)
Dollar Vs. Yuan: Saudis Eye Shift to China's Currency in Oil Deal (businessinsider.com)

So, if this happened, it would mean SA would end up with a lot of Yuan in their coffers, which would need to be exchanged for dollars or euros at some point to buy "stuff" other than from China and a few others.  I think the larger issue is how a few countries export so much they have an enormous balance of trade surplus.

Yuan jumps after report Saudis consider its use in oil deals | Oil and Gas News | Al Jazeera

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« Reply #14467 on: March 16, 2022, 06:44:40 AM »
Saudi Switch to Yuan Seen as Symbolic, Not True Threat to Dollar - Bloomberg

Dollar Vs. Yuan: Saudis Eye Shift to China's Currency in Oil Deal (businessinsider.com)
Dollar Vs. Yuan: Saudis Eye Shift to China's Currency in Oil Deal (businessinsider.com)

So, if this happened, it would mean SA would end up with a lot of Yuan in their coffers, which would need to be exchanged for dollars or euros at some point to buy "stuff" other than from China and a few others.  I think the larger issue is how a few countries export so much they have an enormous balance of trade surplus.

Yuan jumps after report Saudis consider its use in oil deals | Oil and Gas News | Al Jazeera
It’s much bigger than that.

https://www.markavis.org/2022/03/16/the-end-of-the-petrodollar-a-seismic-shift/
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« Reply #14469 on: March 16, 2022, 07:13:27 AM »
I've read "analysts" who say it's not that big a deal, and other say it's an enormous deal.  I don't know, I suspect they don't either.  Reality may be in between.  The Fed has pumped enormous liquidity into our market in a brief period of time and that concerns me, a lot.  Our government is still running massive deficits in a time of economic expansion, that ain't good.  We continue to run a large trade deficit, decade after decade.  All that together isn't good, in my view, but the ultimate collapse, if there is one, could be years off, or tomorrow.


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« Reply #14470 on: March 16, 2022, 07:21:13 AM »
I've read "analysts" who say it's not that big a deal, and other say it's an enormous deal.  I don't know, I suspect they don't either.  Reality may be in between.  The Fed has pumped enormous liquidity into our market in a brief period of time and that concerns me, a lot.  Our government is still running massive deficits in a time of economic expansion, that ain't good.  We continue to run a large trade deficit, decade after decade.  All that together isn't good, in my view, but the ultimate collapse, if there is one, could be years off, or tomorrow.


The real debate is- will it actually happen? Will the dollar be replaced as the worlds dominant currency.  If yes, when. 

If it it does happen- there is not much debate as to whether it hurts us economically- other than the question of to what degree. 

your right on with your concerns- we are infusing printed money at a pace that will burn us. It is not sustainable and the pain will be quicker, more sever and longer lasting if the petrodollar ends.  
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« Reply #14471 on: March 16, 2022, 07:31:28 AM »
There are multiple factors at play, I'm not going to pick one and claim it's the end, too many moving parts.  Maybe one is the straw on the camel at some point.

I'm quite concerned about a recession this year with the Fed basically almost out of bullets.  Fed policy is the highest concern to me.  Well, one of.

I saw a chart on M1 over time that was literally incredible, I had not seen this before, I don't know why it's not more "in the news".

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« Reply #14474 on: March 16, 2022, 07:47:46 AM »
What’s behind the recent surge in the M1 money supply? | FRED Blog (stlouisfed.org)

Maybe it's an accounting change with M1 and M2.  That makes more sense, to me.

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« Reply #14475 on: March 16, 2022, 07:50:24 AM »
There are multiple factors at play, I'm not going to pick one and claim it's the end, too many moving parts.  Maybe one is the straw on the camel at some point.

I'm quite concerned about a recession this year with the Fed basically almost out of bullets.  Fed policy is the highest concern to me.  Well, one of.

I saw a chart on M1 over time that was literally incredible, I had not seen this before, I don't know why it's not more "in the news".
Yep. M1 is outrageous- inflationary and as you say, leaves the Fed with few options.  Plan on rising interest rates and somewhere between a moderate recession to something much worse. 
As to why it’s not more “ in the news”—I think it is pretty obvious and I addressed that up thread. ( and no- one party is NOT to blame- both are)
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