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Yeah so I feel like a lot of stuff maybe just went over your head. It's not just about them essentially barring US investment over there, it's also the 100 other things those shady f**ks do which damages the US.

The problem with the tariffs was that they weren't nearly tough enough in my opinion. They needed more bite. US probably needed to also give massive incentives to US companies willing to start pulling out of China. Give them tax breaks and subsidies to relocate to US. Or hell even Mexico. Just get them the hell out of China.

This country largely can't get bridges and roads fixed because we have a bought congress. It's a literal swamp filled with swap creatures like Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. But I'll take that any day over a totalitarian dictatorship state. I guess your main gripe about America is that it's not a dictatorship?

The real advantage the US has over China is freedom. US still the worlds engine of innovation. People are allowed to think and speak freely here (or at least used to be able to- seems like some whackjobs want to change that). China is a totalitarian prison for it's own citizens. And China doesn't innovate shit. They just rip off everyone else and make cheap junk imitations.

yeah posted that the other day in the other thread. this is not good a good sign for oil prices and therefore gas prices. Biden has been asking Saudis repeatedly to increase production to try to cool oil prices and halt inflation for months and months even before Russia invaded Ukraine. Saudis have flatly refused him every time.

Saudi ruler MbS absolutely despises Biden, and MbS isn't stupid, he's purposely putting the screws to Biden. He wants to see Biden run out of office. Probably a bad idea on Biden's part to call call Saudi Arabia "a pariah state" and vow on the campaign trail to "make MbS pay" and to vow to "reset the relationship" and he probably shouldn't have publicly dissed and privately refused to personally talk to MbS for almost an entire year of being in office.

Somebody probably should've told him "hey Senile Old Joe- you stupid dumbf*ck- rule #1 in life - don't make checks that your ass can't cash" - but the corrupt bloviated blowhard who has never had a real job and has been nothing but a career do nothing politican for 50+ f**king years is just used to saying all kinds of lies and stupid shit to the American public knowing full well he can get away with it. Well, turns out you can't get away with saying whatever you want to/about a dictator who controls 40% of the worlds oil production and 60% of worlds oil exports via OPEC.

MbS has Biden by the balls right now. And Biden is already trying to pin the high oil prices and record inflation US was experiencing before Russia invaded Ukraine on Putin. It's beyond sad and pathetic.

It's not that it goes over my head, it's that it's wrong. It follows the constant pattern heard here lately that everyone successful has some sort of evil motive besides just making more money. I don't want America to be a dictatorship, but when China can do things to meaningfully improve their country and we just mostly gripe about how terrible everyone else is, is it any wonder we are falling behind?

Which brings me back to my original point. Leadership should embrace economic competition with China. Instead, feels like we are on the much more dangerous course of trying to pretend China is the enemy. China doesn't have a huge military because they don't want or need one. They aren't interested in invading other countries because that usually makes no sense. We don't seem to be limited by things like "making sense," so we spend all our money on trying to turn Afghanistan into our own fiefdom.

Yeah, except, it's not wrong. How do you not see this? You can't compete with someone who is a) cheating and b) won't even let you compete in their markets. There is no free trade or competition with China. They don't allow it. They've been ripping the US off for decades. Time to change that. Like now. Right. Now.

China doesn't go invading anywhere not because they don't want to. It's because they simply can't.

Lol. Yeah, ok. You sound like Mayor Buttplug. Let them Buy $50,000 Teslas!

It'll takes years if not a decade plus to do what you're talking about. Record gas prices and record inflation are crushing regular working class people right now. We need a solution, right now. Saudis nudged OPEC to ramp up production- that'd help cool things down. They won't. Why? Because: they hate Biden. And he made them hate him. Not President Shits-his-Diapers fault- he is after all just a very hate-able guy.

Tesla only manufactures about 1 million cars a year. They just hit this milestone after 14 years in business. The nation wide charging infrastructure for people to be able to go electric is also non-existent. There are gas stations on literally every street off every highway in every city in this country. There are not electric charging stations on every street off every highway in every city in this country. And EV prices are still too high. Try getting a Tesla Model 3 for $38k. I don't think you can. The tax credits ran out now I believe bc Tesla has produced so many cars now- and the Model 3 starts at $45k and that's with zero options. Get one with any range or options you're paying $50k minimum. The other manufacturers aren't building very many EVs right now. Tesla still has 80% of the EV market. And at $50k, that's a pretty steep barrier to entrance for EVs. They need to be around $30-35k and you need the charging infrastructure nationwide for them to be massively adopted. This is still many years away.