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Isn't all of the "bad" of CA exactly what people would find unremarkable if it was run as a private business? 

People are flooding in and demand is sky-high?  Charge more and more.

But since it's government-run, it's evil and stupid and crazy. 

Are you suggesting that it's appropriate for governments to operate as For-Profit entities?

• How do politicians get reelected? By finding ways to spend other peoples' money and then taking credit for the spending.
• How do politicians ensure they get reelected? By getting as much of other peoples' money as they can. 
• What do politicians do if they realize that people are going to stay in a place even if they raise taxes? They raise taxes as much as the market will bear. 

My kids in 2006 got a job at Panera, the usual stuff, and their pay started THEN at over MW, it was $8 and something, in Cincy.  I don't understand why a person would take MW when so many jobs are available at 50% more than that.

You live in downtown Atlanta, dude... They HAVE to pay that because nobody will work there for less, because it's downtown Atlanta and you need more to live. It's the market at work.

Looking at a random Georgia map, let's pick the town of Godfrey, GA. I'll bet that there's a lot more MW or just above workers there, because the cost of living is lower and so working for less is worth it.

Why doesn't West Virginia or Kentucky or somewhere just not have taxes and see how that turns out?

You absolutely CAN see how that turns out.

Why do so many states offer sweetheart deals to corporations to basically offer near-zero taxes to move businesses in? Because they know that it'll move businesses in, those businesses will employ people, and then they'll get tax revenue from individual income tax, sales tax, individual property tax, etc.

People lament this, but it's absolutely a winning strategy to try to get corporations to bring jobs in, not charge the corporations any [or very little] taxes, because you can make it up from their employees.

I wouldn't have ended up in California if I weren't an electrical engineer and my first job was in a place aptly named Silicon Valley. And I won't stay if the jobs dry up, regardless of how much I like things here.

It's the reason rural GA is dying. No jobs. Why are there no jobs? Because nobody wants to live there. Why doesn't anyone want to live there? Because there are no jobs!

People follow economic opportunity. Governments then act as parasites on economic opportunity because they know as long as they just flock the sheep, and not slaughter it, it'll keep producing.

You absolutely CAN see how that turns out.

Why do so many states offer sweetheart deals to corporations to basically offer near-zero taxes to move businesses in? Because they know that it'll move businesses in, those businesses will employ people, and then they'll get tax revenue from individual income tax, sales tax, individual property tax, etc.

People lament this, but it's absolutely a winning strategy to try to get corporations to bring jobs in, not charge the corporations any [or very little] taxes, because you can make it up from their employees.

I wouldn't have ended up in California if I weren't an electrical engineer and my first job was in a place aptly named Silicon Valley. And I won't stay if the jobs dry up, regardless of how much I like things here.

It's the reason rural GA is dying. No jobs. Why are there no jobs? Because nobody wants to live there. Why doesn't anyone want to live there? Because there are no jobs!

People follow economic opportunity. Governments then act as parasites on economic opportunity because they know as long as they just flock the sheep, and not slaughter it, it'll keep producing.