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The US has not won a war since 1945, and we don't even win that one without Stalin's Eastern front to spread the Nazis out.

WW2 would not have even started without Russia's alliance with Germany enabling the Germans to invade without fear

That general needed to be taken out.

I don't care who ordered it. Could've been any of the last 4 presidents, or Mickey Mouse, and I'd still support that move.

Had to help our good and righteous friends the Saudis

Anyone concerned about a potential World War?

If Russia takes Ukraine, and China follows with Taiwan, then what?

Red line in the sand? War? What?

Yes. Very concerned. Biden is a completely useless f**king moron who employs other morons in the unelected bureaucracy like Tony Blinken who continually go on tv and spout nonsense publicly that inch us closer and closer to war with Russia- a country that holds about half of the worlds nuclear weapons. And a country that knows war and knows what it's like to have war touch their borders and lose millions of citizens and soldiers. They are a MUCH harder, tougher people than us. The United States and it's people have no idea what that is like. War has never truly touched US borders.

People do not understand this conflict at all. NATO is the problem. It is a relic from a bygone time that has come and gone and it needs to be disbanded. It is making the world more dangerous, not safer. The entire purpose of NATO was to protect Western Europe from the USSR. The USSR no longer exists. And hasn't for 30+ freaking years. Let the god damn Europeans pay for their own defense. This country bleeds enough money as it is. Let those smug EU bastards stand up and defend themselves.

De-classified documents show and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that President Bush I and high ranking officials like secretary of state James Baker gave assurances to the leader of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand "not one inch eastward" during talks to put together a treaty which would allow for the reunification of Germany and for the USSR to completely pull out of East Germany. Yeah, that obviously didn't happen. The US went back on their word, as usual.

It's pretty simple and I really do not understand why people do not understand this issue. Russia ABSOLUTELY does not want NATO and US missile systems, fighter jets, and troops encroaching on their border. Ukraine joining NATO would set that into motion and Russia cannot allow that. It is completely unacceptable to them for Ukraine to join NATO and to have US war machine right on their ass. And it should be unacceptable to them. Can you imagine if Mexico & Cuba joined some Russian backed military alliance and they started stationing missiles, troops, fighter jets, tanks, etc., etc., in our back yard? LOL. Shit would HIT THE F***KING FAN in a NY minute.

I say the US should try to make a treaty with Russia, and they should gang up and go blow the shit out of China. China is the real threat.

let NATO handle the Ukraine

w/o us

The US is NATO. We fund it by as much as 75%. We control it.

NATO is the problem. There is zero reason for NATO to want to have Ukraine join it. Ukraine is not a Western European or North American country. Yet they are pushing for that very thing. Why? Really does not make sense.

Nuke the whales. 

let NATO handle the Ukraine

w/o us

NATO without us is literally 17 of those little green plastic army men toys.  

All we need is a sovereign country to attack us where we can unleash the fury.  Declare war on us.  Both sides know what would happen. 

In the past 45 years, we've been Superman holding back, knowing that if we went full bore, it would yield all the death.  If an actual country came and tugged on our cape, it's lights out.

not exactly true. it's longer than 45 years ago, but a bunch of little Vietnamese men in a jungle armed with inferior weapons kicked the United States ass. And the US didn't hold anything back except for nuclear weapons. The US tried and failed to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan and impose puppet governments and they got their asses kicked by literal cavemen goat herders. 

Moral of the story: you can't take a country that doesn't want you there in the first place, and that you have no legitimate reason to be there in the first place. US soldiers don't even know what they were fighting for in those wars. Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghanis were fighting for their homes and their freedom from a foreign aggressor. That's a dangerous f'ing thing to fight against- and you'll lose every single time. Don't matter how big your d*ck is.