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« Reply #11032 on: January 06, 2022, 12:22:38 PM »
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« Reply #11033 on: January 06, 2022, 12:26:02 PM »
I read that my age group (I'm 42, almost 43.  I think.  I honestly quit counting at 27 and now I just guess mostly) is the cutoff age for DIYers.  People older than me still often tackle their own projects like y'all are talking about here.  People younger than me didn't learn any carpentry, basic appliance repair, auto-repair, etc.  They almost exclusively hire stuff done.  Somewhere along the line dads quit teaching their kids what they knew about that stuff and kids quit being interested. 

I fit the supposed line of demarcation pretty well.  I wouldn't try half the stuff y'all talk about here and I wound up knowing very little of what my dad is capable of, but I'll take on more stuff I've noticed--particularly with the help of YouTube--than will many people younger than me, I've noticed. 

Vocation and education probably play into it a lot as well.  My stepson is nearing the end of a mechanical engineering degree and has had to do projects that allow him to tackle some neat projects I would be completely lost on.  Even though he's even less of a carpenter or plumber than I am.  My other stepson went to a trade school for electrical work and robot programming, and has a personality that gives zero f*cks about breaking something or failing at a project.  That enables him to tackle a variety of projects--some of which he mastered through trial and error in his younger years--that I wouldn't try.  

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« Reply #11034 on: January 06, 2022, 12:43:06 PM »
People younger than me didn't learn any carpentry, basic appliance repair, auto-repair, etc.  
Yeah, but they know history of fine arts real good.
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« Reply #11035 on: January 06, 2022, 12:46:07 PM »
GFCI outlets/breakers fail pretty frequently, especially the ones made in China.  I know you said you replaced it recently, but it might have failed again.  

If you can find one, be sure to replace it with American-made.  They're more expensive but worth it.

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« Reply #11036 on: January 06, 2022, 12:48:41 PM »
And Youtube makes DIY so much easier now, than it was 20 years ago.  There's pretty much a video out there to repair (or create) almost anything you can imagine.

My millennial nephews (29 and 31) were almost completely helpless, and I used to give them a lot of advice and direct help on house and car stuff.  Then I finally told them, "Go check Youtube" and they've become WAY handier than they were before.

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« Reply #11037 on: January 06, 2022, 12:49:38 PM »
I read that my age group (I'm 42, almost 43.  I think.  I honestly quit counting at 27 and now I just guess mostly) is the cutoff age for DIYers.  People older than me still often tackle their own projects like y'all are talking about here.  People younger than me didn't learn any carpentry, basic appliance repair, auto-repair, etc.  They almost exclusively hire stuff done.  Somewhere along the line dads quit teaching their kids what they knew about that stuff and kids quit being interested. 

I fit the supposed line of demarcation pretty well.  I wouldn't try half the stuff y'all talk about here and I wound up knowing very little of what my dad is capable of, but I'll take on more stuff I've noticed--particularly with the help of YouTube--than will many people younger than me, I've noticed. 

Vocation and education probably play into it a lot as well.  My stepson is nearing the end of a mechanical engineering degree and has had to do projects that allow him to tackle some neat projects I would be completely lost on.  Even though he's even less of a carpenter or plumber than I am.  My other stepson went to a trade school for electrical work and robot programming, and has a personality that gives zero f*cks about breaking something or failing at a project.  That enables him to tackle a variety of projects--some of which he mastered through trial and error in his younger years--that I wouldn't try. 
That's interesting, and wonder if that really changes for youngsters, because you can learn just about anything DIY form Youtube, and the youngsters watch Youtube more than anything. My six year old was drawing some really good stuff, and learning how to draw from watching Youtube.

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« Reply #11038 on: January 06, 2022, 12:52:10 PM »
I read that my age group (I'm 42, almost 43.  I think.  I honestly quit counting at 27 and now I just guess mostly) is the cutoff age for DIYers.  People older than me still often tackle their own projects like y'all are talking about here.  People younger than me didn't learn any carpentry, basic appliance repair, auto-repair, etc.  They almost exclusively hire stuff done.  Somewhere along the line dads quit teaching their kids what they knew about that stuff and kids quit being interested. 

I fit the supposed line of demarcation pretty well.  I wouldn't try half the stuff y'all talk about here and I wound up knowing very little of what my dad is capable of, but I'll take on more stuff I've noticed--particularly with the help of YouTube--than will many people younger than me, I've noticed. 

Vocation and education probably play into it a lot as well.  My stepson is nearing the end of a mechanical engineering degree and has had to do projects that allow him to tackle some neat projects I would be completely lost on.  Even though he's even less of a carpenter or plumber than I am.  My other stepson went to a trade school for electrical work and robot programming, and has a personality that gives zero f*cks about breaking something or failing at a project.  That enables him to tackle a variety of projects--some of which he mastered through trial and error in his younger years--that I wouldn't try. 
I'm 43. 

I'm the son of an architect, who was the first person in his family to go to college. His dad was a machinist. So he definitely learned at an early age "if you can do it yourself, do that instead of hiring out." I wouldn't say that he taught me a whole lot of things about how to do these things--he wasn't the most patient man--but I think I picked up that mindset by watching him. 

And then of course I became an engineer, so the general mindset of tinkering has always been in me. 

Truth is, I don't know how to do half the stuff I do... But YouTube does. I'm handy enough to understand what the YouTube video is doing and then replicate it, lol...  

The one thing I don't do is plumbing. A lot of people are scared of electrical work because they worry they'll electrocute themselves or start their house on fire, but as an electrical engineer, I trust myself on electrical work. But water damage (and anything related to natural gas) terrifies me, so I won't do anything but the absolute most basic of plumbing work. 

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« Reply #11039 on: January 06, 2022, 12:58:06 PM »
The one thing I don't do is plumbing. A lot of people are scared of electrical work because they worry they'll electrocute themselves or start their house on fire, but as an electrical engineer, I trust myself on electrical work. But water damage (and anything related to natural gas) terrifies me, so I won't do anything but the absolute most basic of plumbing work.

I was kinda like that, until I replumbed 100% of my vintage Airstream camper during the restoration.  Now, I'll do just about anything plumbing related here at the house.  Same thing with gas lines, I had to replumb 100% of that in the Airstream as well.  It's all pretty simple stuff and, like everything else, tons of Youtube videos for guidance.

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« Reply #11040 on: January 06, 2022, 01:02:37 PM »
I read that my age group (I'm 42, almost 43.  I think.  I honestly quit counting at 27 and now I just guess mostly) is the cutoff age for DIYers.  People older than me still often tackle their own projects like y'all are talking about here.  People younger than me didn't learn any carpentry, basic appliance repair, auto-repair, etc.  They almost exclusively hire stuff done.  Somewhere along the line dads quit teaching their kids what they knew about that stuff and kids quit being interested. 
My grandpa (on my mothers side) was incredibly handy.  My father's father died young of a heart attack, I never met him.  My dad was taught a lot by my mother's father, and then he just had a DIY book he consulted.  He built two decks, a treehouse, did all of our landscaping, finished our basement, including electrical.  Just with that damn book.  I hung a new light fixture, and felt like I needed to brag on social media about it.

But I do minor home stuff, and my FIL is the exact opposite, asking why I don't just pay someone to do things like stain the deck.  I mentioned once that I was painting the bedrooms, and he asked to come help.  Lasted 5 minutes, and then tapped out when I started taping.  He's about to turn 70, but this was like 7 years ago, and it wasn't due to physical limitations, I think it was exclusively due to not realizing the minimal amount of work that went into painting a room.

I won't do electrical, granted the prior electrical on the light fixture I hung needed some reworking, or plumbing, with a caveat that once I did some plumbing work in our bathtub, because the only leak was going directly into the tub, so I felt confident that (a) it wasn't getting worse while I was figuring it out and (b) if I screwed it up worse, the water bill would just keep going up, it wouldn't cause additional damage

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« Reply #11041 on: January 06, 2022, 01:03:43 PM »
That's interesting, and wonder if that really changes for youngsters, because you can learn just about anything DIY form Youtube, and the youngsters watch Youtube more than anything. My six year old was drawing some really good stuff, and learning how to draw from watching Youtube.
I use it for everything.  And yes, our 8 year old makes amazing drawing from Kids Art Hub on YouTube

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« Reply #11042 on: January 06, 2022, 01:05:32 PM »
But I do minor home stuff, and my FIL is the exact opposite, asking why I don't just pay someone to do things like stain the deck.  
Oddly I hire out minor stuff on the cars all the time. I know how to do oil changes and brakes. I've done them a bunch of times. I just pay someone to do it now. 

In those cases, the cost is minor enough that I'd rather just pay it to not have to do it myself, even though I'll save money. Bigger jobs, the difference between doing it myself and paying someone starts to get significant enough that I'll take on the project. 

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« Reply #11043 on: January 06, 2022, 01:06:59 PM »
Oddly I hire out minor stuff on the cars all the time. I know how to do oil changes and brakes. I've done them a bunch of times. I just pay someone to do it now.

In those cases, the cost is minor enough that I'd rather just pay it to not have to do it myself, even though I'll save money. Bigger jobs, the difference between doing it myself and paying someone starts to get significant enough that I'll take on the project.
Car stuff I know nothing about, so yes.  My dad, who did all of the things I mentioned above, never even changed the oil on anything larger than a lawnmower, so that never seemed out of line to me

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« Reply #11044 on: January 06, 2022, 01:14:11 PM »
Oddly I hire out minor stuff on the cars all the time. I know how to do oil changes and brakes. I've done them a bunch of times. I just pay someone to do it now.

In those cases, the cost is minor enough that I'd rather just pay it to not have to do it myself, even though I'll save money. Bigger jobs, the difference between doing it myself and paying someone starts to get significant enough that I'll take on the project.
I've done more than my fair share of oil changes but I don't really like to, so I typically hire it out.  New filters are cheap, but collecting and managing the disposal of the oil is a hassle, so it's worth it to me to have someone else do it.

I don't mind doing brakes though, at least not on disc brakes.  For drums I'll typically take it to the shop.

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« Reply #11045 on: January 06, 2022, 01:31:35 PM »
I do as much of my own work as my body will allow. I find it fun.
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