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« Reply #10220 on: November 15, 2021, 12:43:04 PM »
Congress has been mostly nonfunctional for some time. A typical Congressman's day is probably 90 percent fundraising and other election activities. They don't even bother to legislate openly anymore. This is a pretty direct result of the party system, especially the two party system.

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« Reply #10221 on: November 15, 2021, 01:13:10 PM »
If you really want to affect change in Congress, repeal the 17th Amendment. Prior to the 17th, US Senators were selected by the State Legislature. They were accountable to the state and not some political party. They didn't need to run for election because they were appointed. And if the state legislature didn't care for how they were voting, they could be replaced.
State governments are run by political parties. They will answer to politicians, ones that are very good at legislating themselves into strong position to hold power with fewer votes. 

I imagine we'd get a different kind of congress with a different kind of cronyism. Maybe better, but certianly not free of many, many of the issues we have now. 

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« Reply #10222 on: November 15, 2021, 02:52:04 PM »
I understand this

doesn't mean that politicians couldn't propose another way to gather taxes besides income

you know, like a sales tax on luxury items or something else targeted at the ultra rich
but politicians don't want to tax themselves or their buddies

They killed the American Yacht Industry in the early 90s because of a luxury tax


Opinion | Boat Luxury Tax Drives an Industry Aground - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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« Reply #10223 on: November 15, 2021, 02:52:54 PM »
Congress did try a luxury tax some while back, it put a lot of folks out of work.
Didn't see your post before I replied

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« Reply #10224 on: November 15, 2021, 02:55:42 PM »
If you really want to affect change in Congress, repeal the 17th Amendment. Prior to the 17th, US Senators were selected by the State Legislature. They were accountable to the state and not some political party. They didn't need to run for election because they were appointed. And if the state legislature didn't care for how they were voting, they could be replaced.

The Senate was supposed to be the states voice in the Fed Gov't. The House was the People's voice. Now you have 2 houses of congress that are subservient to the whims of the public, constantly running for election and kneeling the to alter of the party leaders for committee positions and funding.

The other net affect is that after the 17th went into affect, much of the power of Congress was legislated to the Executive branch through numerous new departments with unelected regulators that essentially now write laws through regulations. Congress needs to take this power back and maintain it where the founders had originally placed it.
Amen Brother

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« Reply #10225 on: November 15, 2021, 03:23:57 PM »
I don't think it at all viable to repeal 17 nor to have term limits.  Not gonna happen.  Neither is much else suggested here.

Some things we have to live with even though they are akin to Eastern Michigan.

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« Reply #10226 on: November 15, 2021, 04:14:44 PM »
I think term limits would do a world of good
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« Reply #10227 on: November 15, 2021, 04:31:30 PM »
California bullet train's latest woe: Will it be high speed? (apnews.com)
California bullet train's latest woe: Will it be high speed? (apnews.com)

The Cali "HSR" might start with diesel electric locos.

I'd laugh, but it's really sad.

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« Reply #10229 on: November 15, 2021, 04:58:03 PM »
California bullet train's latest woe: Will it be high speed? (apnews.com)
California bullet train's latest woe: Will it be high speed? (apnews.com)

The Cali "HSR" might start with diesel electric locos.

I'd laugh, but it's really sad.
Sort of the epitaph for America, for which the overall political message is doing anything at all is impossible. The learned helplessness of our times.

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« Reply #10230 on: November 15, 2021, 04:59:35 PM »
In my view, it helps to have a REALISTIC plan.

They never did, and sold a bill of goods to the voters.

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« Reply #10231 on: November 15, 2021, 05:02:13 PM »
In my view, it helps to have a REALISTIC plan.

They never did, and sold a bill of goods to the voters.
It's realistic, in the sense that building a train track with train stations is realistic. In isn't realistic, in the sense that actually building anything of that scale in this country is near impossible.  Like I said, learned helplessness.

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« Reply #10232 on: November 15, 2021, 05:09:55 PM »
When you lack a credible financial plan, a thing is not realistic, it's built off some forlorn hope funding will appear from somewhere else.

It was a bill of goods, over sold, under funded by miles, and never had a chance of being anything beyond some expensive track laid between small towns in the Valley.

Now, the FEDERAL government can BORROW, almost indefinitely, so they COULD fund such things, in theory, using fiat money.

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« Reply #10233 on: November 15, 2021, 05:51:42 PM »
It doesn't even matter. It's a stupid idea. 

Connect LA to SF? There are literally 5 airports in the greater LA area (LAX, Long Beach, Burbank, Orange County, Ontario). There are three in the Bay Area (SF, Oakland, San Jose). Planes depart pretty much on the hour from all to all, all day long. Flight time is ~1 hour. Rates are pretty cheap. 

Need to save money, or need to have a car at your location and don't want to rent? It's a 5-6 hour drive. 

The high speed rail has all the cost of air travel, all the hassle of air travel (need to get to a central location, park, etc), and takes almost as long, counting all that extra hassle, as driving. 

HSR between LA and SF is a solution in search of a problem.

There's no way it'll ever reach ridership numbers in order to make it financially viable.

If California really wanted to spend $100B and get a return on it, they'd fund a massive program through the entire UC system to develop the technology to electrify air travel, and license all their patents to Boeing and Airbus to productize it. I'll bet for $100B, they might be able to pull that off. 

 

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