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bayareabadger

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« Reply #7000 on: July 18, 2021, 09:06:36 PM »
splain yourself


longhorn not understand
I mean, if you’re only running gas on it, that’s just not very much money. And it means you’re not using much credit. Like, I’m not gonna build good credit if I spend many years with ELA‘s $500 a month card.

(it was mostly tongue-in-cheek)

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« Reply #7001 on: July 18, 2021, 09:10:00 PM »
banks/money lenders are evil and the summabitches that check credit scores
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« Reply #7002 on: July 18, 2021, 09:13:42 PM »
I mean, if you’re only running gas on it, that’s just not very much money. And it means you’re not using much credit. Like, I’m not gonna build good credit if I spend many years with ELA‘s $500 a month card.

(it was mostly tongue-in-cheek)
I was paying a monthly mortgage plus various utilities

my credit rating was high enough for my needs
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« Reply #7003 on: July 18, 2021, 09:27:51 PM »
I was paying a monthly mortgage plus various utilities

my credit rating was high enough for my needs
Again, it was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Just being sassy.

but now I am a little bit curious. What were the steps you took to qualify for your mortgage? Where did you just kind of suck it up and a high rate when that started?

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« Reply #7004 on: July 18, 2021, 10:07:46 PM »
Again, it was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Just being sassy.

but now I am a little bit curious. What were the steps you took to qualify for your mortgage? Where did you just kind of suck it up and a high rate when that started?
With interest rates being what they are, credit is somewhat overrated. You don't want too low of credit to not qualify for a loan, but not a ton of difference after that.

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« Reply #7005 on: July 18, 2021, 10:23:17 PM »
I mean, if you’re only running gas on it, that’s just not very much money. And it means you’re not using much credit. Like, I’m not gonna build good credit if I spend many years with ELA‘s $500 a month card.

(it was mostly tongue-in-cheek)
I had that credit card; and put all of our utilities in my name, for 5 years, and that did the trick

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« Reply #7006 on: July 18, 2021, 10:45:39 PM »
Again, it was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Just being sassy.

but now I am a little bit curious. What were the steps you took to qualify for your mortgage? Where did you just kind of suck it up and a high rate when that started?
It was our first house back in 1975

interest rates were much higher then

all I did was fill out an application they checked my salary and approved the loan

if I remember right the 1800 sq foot house cost $ 40,000 financed for 30 years at 6 or 7 %

The house was 2 years old

I sold that house 15 years later for $80,000 so I did ok
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« Reply #7007 on: July 18, 2021, 10:50:44 PM »
You can of course build credit by paying your electric and water bills on time each month.  And you can get a credit card with a low limit just about anywhere.  No fees, cash back in many cases, use it and build credit.  If you aspire to owning a home someday, it will be important.

And of course getting a credit card is not somehow forcing anyone to accept a loan, that premise is absurd.
So I think the bolded part is somewhat interesting. Whether or not it's true, there is a sense that to take an important life step (kinda), and have access to one of the most bedrock wealth-building paths in our society, you have to tangle with a financial instrument that is designed to pillage the finances of those who use it. 

The fact is, many of the convenient features credit cards once offered are now available with much less risk (well, give or take the fact it's build on the credit card infrastructure, which gets philosophical). In our modern society, if you actually need that kind of credit, you almost assuredly shouldn't be using it. If you get caught in either a moment of irresponsibility, calamity or ignorance of how the instrument functions, they'll ruin your finances. And the companies that operate them are literally built on doing that. 

This isn't to say that there isn't a need for some way to prove financial responsibly. But we don't need to attach any moral rectitude to the credit card industry. Those things are designed at their base to drain people. They might make it a game with rewards, or get cast as part of building a stable financial life, but their bread is buttered by putting people in bad spots and squeezing them. 

(I should say this, I had a really low debt/low trackable credit lifestyle through much of my 20s. I used a debit card instead of a credit card. I lived in places with roommates or consolidated bills, so I was rarely on power or cable bills. I paid rent every month, though roommate stuff was often not documented. And in truth, I lived a very stable financial life, and people still explained, “No, BAB, you need to borrow someone’s money, for the credit score and your future.” Think about how wild that is. I had a friend who bought a car from a family member. You can handle that all sorts of ways. Instead, they went to a bank and got a loan, with monthly payments and everything. Why? “To build my credit.” We’re somehow attaching moral good to going into debt.

Also, for fun, your credit score is five parts
Payment history - What we’ve talked here, 35 percent
Amount owed/credit utilization - If I’m running $2,000 a month on my credit card, this looks better if I have $10,000 in limit instead of $4,000, even if I’m paying more for the former number, 30 percent
Length of credit history - This encourages you to start going into debt early and to keep different lines active
Credit mix - This just means I need to borrow from a few different sets of folks 10 percent
New credit - This dings you for borrowing from a bunch of sources all at ones, 10 percent)

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« Reply #7008 on: July 18, 2021, 10:54:43 PM »

It was our first house back in 1975

interest rates were much higher then

all I did was fill out an application they checked my salary and approved the loan

if I remember right the 1800 sq foot house cost $ 40,000 financed for 30 years at 6 or 7 %

The house was 2 years old
I want to go to this financial world. (Well, I don't know where the house was. I suppose I could get something close to that, inflation adjusted, where I live, though we have a somewhat depressed housing market)

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« Reply #7009 on: July 18, 2021, 10:55:29 PM »
I had that credit card; and put all of our utilities in my name, for 5 years, and that did the trick
How do you mean did the trick? Like, got you in a good spot for a mortgage or just got you on the right foot?

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« Reply #7010 on: July 18, 2021, 11:05:35 PM »
I want to go to this financial world. (Well, I don't know where the house was. I suppose I could get something close to that, inflation adjusted, where I live, though we have a somewhat depressed housing market)
It would be much harder in California

Unless youre trying to buy in Austin Texas has a very good housing market

Austin home prices are much higher then other Texas cities



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« Reply #7011 on: July 18, 2021, 11:07:49 PM »
How do you mean did the trick? Like, got you in a good spot for a mortgage or just got you on the right foot?
My first mortgage was based on my credit score from that card and paying my utilities.  My $150K+ student debt didn't matter a bit

I sued that card for gas and groceries, and nothing else.  I made sure not to even have it in my wallet if I went to the bar, because I was prone to open tabs when drunk.  I took out an ATM cash allowance of $30 per week, and all of my spending money came from that $30

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« Reply #7012 on: July 18, 2021, 11:16:46 PM »
It would be much harder in California

Unless youre trying to buy in Austin Texas has a very good housing market

Austin home prices are much higher then other Texas cities




I don't live in Ca. Though I'm about to move to a major metro. 

Based on my math, that's about $202,000 in today's dollars. I think there are relatively few prosperous places with some level of convenience where I could get 1,800 nice square feet for that price. Granted I don't know where in Texas your situation was at. Looking right now, Houston has 88 such listings on Zillow at the moment. Dallas has three, some in rough shape. All interesting in one way or another. 

My understanding of housing markets is a bit warped because of where I'm from and living either in depressed former factory towns or my current town, which is kind of an odd spot for that. In the large city I'm about to move to, there are almost no houses in that category, save for one that needs to be repaired after a fire. A few in the town I'm in now, almost none in areas I'd feel great about.

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« Reply #7013 on: July 18, 2021, 11:39:35 PM »
I currently live in Northwest Houston and I guarantee for $200,000 you can buy a very good 1800 square foot house here

Obviously the closer you get to downtown the more expensive the house will be

Im guessing my distance to downtown is 30 miles
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