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Yeah, I had it come up once in some sort of trivia where the question was "What state has the highest per capita alcohol consumption?"

Around a bunch of Californians, without ANY hesitation, I said "Wisconsin."

And I'm not sure it's particularly close. 

Yeah, I had it come up once in some sort of trivia where the question was "What state has the highest per capita alcohol consumption?"

Around a bunch of Californians, without ANY hesitation, I said "Wisconsin."

And I'm not sure it's particularly close.

I would have guessed Alaska

Pretty amazing. Also amazing is how much HP and torque these engineers can coax out of these small power plants.

Absolutely.

Hard to get the torque numbers without forced induction though. You can hit high HP with variable valve timing and a high redline, but unless you have the low-end torque you need to be constantly in "drive it like you stole it" mode to get performance. If you have to drive something at 9/10ths to get the performance, it's not "streetable" performance.

That Civic Type R would likely be significantly faster than the Accord 2.0T on a road course, not only due to being smaller and handling better but that the torque penalty of accelerating from zero mph without boost would be gone. It would stay constantly in the powerband. 

For low end torque you typically either need displacement or boost. 

After building boost with pedal overlap, the Honda Accord Sport 2.0T hits 60 mph in 5.5 seconds, making it just one-tenth of a second slower than the Civic Type R we had in our long-term test fleet. Its quarter-mile result of 14.1 seconds at 100.4 mph is only two tenths behind the Civic Type R.


Not many "muscle cars" of yore are faster, and this one gets 32 mpg highway (est).

Slow!  Molasses level. 

After building boost with pedal overlap, the Honda Accord Sport 2.0T hits 60 mph in 5.5 seconds, making it just one-tenth of a second slower than the Civic Type R we had in our long-term test fleet. Its quarter-mile result of 14.1 seconds at 100.4 mph is only two tenths behind the Civic Type R.


Not many "muscle cars" of yore are faster, and this one gets 32 mpg highway (est).

Slow!!!   Yuck 

the performance isn't the yucky part

Cincy knows better than I.  I'm 5'10"

getting in and out and trying to get 4 golf bags and 4 guys in the little buggers

Tell me about it. At 6'5" I feel cramped in the driver's seat of my wife's RX350. We initially looked at the NX200 as well because we weren't sure she needed the size of the RX, and I couldn't comfortably sit in the passenger seat. 

But hey, what do I need to worry about 0-60 times for anyway? I'm not jamming the go pedal all the way to the floor ever anyway.

Alrighty, there, Top Gun.