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« Reply #4018 on: March 25, 2021, 06:08:51 PM »
You don't see the ugly stilt homes in South Florida. You see that in the white trash pandhandle parts.

Well....they're still on stilts, they're just covered up, lol.  I like the stilt homes down in the Keys.  Didn't know you were a snob, too.  Damn, got to add it to the list.
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« Reply #4019 on: March 25, 2021, 06:26:49 PM »
Homes on stilts exist in the hurricane zone on islands and whatnot, not in "normal areas".


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« Reply #4020 on: March 25, 2021, 06:27:27 PM »
I'm just looking for when I can get back into home ownership.

I made a perfect call on buying here at the end of 2010. I've never believed that you can truly "time the market", but I felt that my job situation was safe enough that I could ride out another 5-10% drop in prices, which is kinda what I thought was worst case at the time. I figured it'd recover in 1-2 years even if that drop occurred. So I bought. As it turns out, I pretty much nailed the bottom [as described, due to luck more than skill]. 

But then in 2016, I had to sell as part of the divorce. I couldn't afford to buy my ex [who was a spendthrift so we had no savings and plenty of debt] out of the property, so we both had to sell and walk away. 

I constantly regret that I couldn't buy her out. If I had bought her out, I'd have at least $300K in equity right now. Instead I'm renting, and I've watched prices continually rise for the last 5 years since the divorce. 

Now it's damn near impossible to find a single family home around here under $800K. 

I've spent the last 5 years watching the market--after it had appreciated SIGNIFICANTLY the previous 5 years--and it just keeps going up and all I hear is "lack of inventory."

I'm waiting for the party to end so I can actually get beyond the velvet rope.

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« Reply #4021 on: March 25, 2021, 06:31:51 PM »

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« Reply #4022 on: March 25, 2021, 06:33:29 PM »
I think it will take another recession, which I can't hope for, but it will come.  And we could well see inflation heading up soonish, which also would impact home pricing.

Owning is a decent inflation hedge.


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« Reply #4023 on: March 25, 2021, 06:45:44 PM »
Selig Lays Out 300-Unit, 500,000-Square-Foot Second Phase Plans For 1105 West Peachtree | What Now Atlanta

This fellow has almost rebuilt midtown single handedly.  

There currently is a pretty crappy looking low rise apt building on this site.

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« Reply #4024 on: March 25, 2021, 10:21:35 PM »
Homes on stilts exist in the hurricane zone on islands and whatnot, not in "normal areas".
homes on piles in SoFL really only near water where soil conditions suck. 

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« Reply #4025 on: March 25, 2021, 10:31:03 PM »
I could not have finished our build at a better time, Aug 19.  I haven't had to order, rehab, fix or renovate a thing during this time where everybody is waiting around for all kinds of raw materials and labor.  It's bonkers how many people did major redesign projects and are still waiting around for stuff.   Lumber prices are crazy.  Framing cost is massively higher on a new build right now relative to early '20.

First world problems but it has disrupted a lot.

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« Reply #4026 on: March 25, 2021, 10:33:29 PM »
I think it will take another recession, which I can't hope for, but it will come.  And we could well see inflation heading up soonish, which also would impact home pricing.

Owning is a decent inflation hedge.

every real estate market is different and unto itself. There will be slowdown and corrections in markets that are artificially hot at the moment due to low interest rates and foreclosure relief programs keeping homes that could be sold on the cheap off the markets (think dying places that are losing people YoY like PA/Michigan/Ohio/Illinois) which lowers total inventory and keeps prices higher.

I don't see the South Florida market slowing down anytime soon. You have insane demand (1,000+ people a day moving) and near zero supply. Banks aren't just handing out mortgages like skittles like they were pre-crash of 2008-2009. And every single developer that sells pre-construction homes and condos down here now makes buyers put up a huge chunk to buy. Leading up to the crash of 2008-2009 you could buy a condo or house with 10 or 20% down- when shit hit the fan buyers all walked. These guys learned a thing or two. Now developers make their buyers put up 60-80% ground is ever broken. And it's mainly people with money that are coming here- and people with money almost always have money- no matter what the economy looks like for the common folk. 

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« Reply #4027 on: March 26, 2021, 05:58:08 AM »

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I've spent the last 5 years watching the market--after it had appreciated SIGNIFICANTLY the previous 5 years--and it just keeps going up and all I hear is "lack of inventory."
Man I know.  We bought a few years ago and I felt stupid. Like, I must be the biggest buster for buying now while the market is totally hot and home prices are inflated.  But I bit the bullet and we bought our home.  Since then, prices have risen even faster and inventory has dropped even lower. So who knows.

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« Reply #4028 on: March 26, 2021, 07:16:55 AM »
homes on piles in SoFL really only near water where soil conditions suck.
Yeah, the wife originally aspired to be "near a beach".  We looked in north Florida, and there is a hurricane zone where houses on the beach are on stilts.  Somewhat further inland is still the zone, but houses are "normal", and I learned it's good to be out of said zone for insurance purposes.  A couple miles inland is all it takes.

A house right on the beach will be elevated, a nice house will simply have a garage downstairs and the house built up a level, like on Hilton Head.  There are some million dollar homes there "on the beach", but they are 100 yards or more away from high tide.  They aren't on stilts at all of course.

We have 125 units in our building, nothing for sale right now, which is pretty typical.  Our realtor friend tells us if you want one here, you need to know before it comes on the market and have a check in hand.

I am somewhat concerned about over building, but the developers are not apparently.  They tend to over build here before a crash.

The popular thing is a 2 bdr 2.5 bath condo with about 1200 sf.  Those start at half a mil in anything of recent construction.  They could be a good investment.

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« Reply #4029 on: March 26, 2021, 09:37:13 AM »
I get that COVID made it less likely people would want to move right now... But I also figured that it would spur some people who *had* to move because they can no longer afford their mortgage. But it seems that didn't happen either.

But here in SoCal, the story has been low inventory for at least half the last decade, if not longer. And it's not that a lot of homes are selling but demand is higher so things don't stay on the market, it's that actual number of sales and homes for sale are lower than typical. At least that's how I understand it... I'm not in real estate so that could be backwards.

I'm legitimately perplexed. It seems like we have a multi-year trend of significantly lower inventory and raising prices, making it a seller's market. Shouldn't that attract more sellers?
Here is a good overview.

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/housing-market-was-rocked-by-covid-19-where-we-go-from-here/
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« Reply #4030 on: March 26, 2021, 09:40:52 AM »
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« Reply #4031 on: March 26, 2021, 09:41:10 AM »
Induction is the way to go if you can't get gas. Electric sucks.

I saw you said something about the roof, if you're looking to do a new metal roof- I can put you in touch with a guy who does the fabricates and installs. He only does metal only and don't know if he services all parts of Florida- but his prices just can't be beat by anyone. Just used him on a 5,200 sq ft. home in Delray Beach on the intercoastal and his price was 17k less than every other roofer I had bid the job.

He has all the machines and buys the metal and makes the roof himself, he's not going through a middle man like just about every other roofer.
Thank you. The HOA does not allow metal roofs currently, but they are looking into it. Doesn't that get a little noisy when it rains?
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