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Topic: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #84 on: August 03, 2023, 06:58:25 PM »
ND is the crown jewel out there for any conference because they bring the largest tv audience. But man do I just really hate them.
Even though I gave up on the Bears a long time ago, I still root against the Packers.

Even though I gave on having an active college sports fandom a year and a half ago, I still hate ND. 

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #85 on: August 03, 2023, 09:31:57 PM »
Even though I gave up on the Bears a long time ago, I still root against the Packers.

Even though I gave on having an active college sports fandom a year and a half ago, I still hate ND.

and therefore you might watch their game hoping for a loss

adding value to their product

probably similar to the Canes
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #86 on: August 04, 2023, 07:08:07 AM »
I'm not sure what the biggest name left on the board is, but Notre Dame is not it. 

Miami is a do not want. The only thing they add to the league is contraband and tropical cyclone research. 

As for research funding, the reason we keep bringing it up is that it dwarfs the athletics budgets by at least a full order of magnitude. 

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #87 on: August 04, 2023, 07:48:15 AM »
Research funding can be large, and entirely irrelevant to the discussion.  University A does not benefit from having University B with some huge research budget in the same conference.  That isn't how it works.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #88 on: August 04, 2023, 07:58:01 AM »
yup, Notre Dame is easily the biggest name on the board

because TV ratings.  That is the goal here.  TV $$$ is shared by the conference.
If a program's TV ratings aren't above average for the conference there's little reason to invite them.
Perhaps their TV ratings will improve dramatically with membership?

UNL is getting more research $$ today because of membership in the Big 10.  But that is a main reason UNL wanted membership, not the reason the B1G wanted UNL.
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2023, 08:58:49 AM »
Edit:  Arizona is now almost gone, moving to the Big 12 in 2024.  They have decided to leave and the Big 12 has accepted their application.  

The main thing holding up an official announcement is they are waiting for Arizona State to make a decision.  They want to make sure that if ASU wants to join the Big 12, the Big 12 would have to take the 2 as a package.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2023, 09:32:45 AM by LittlePig »

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2023, 10:10:30 AM »
I'm not sure what the biggest name left on the board is, but Notre Dame is not it.

Miami is a do not want. The only thing they add to the league is contraband and tropical cyclone research.

As for research funding, the reason we keep bringing it up is that it dwarfs the athletics budgets by at least a full order of magnitude.

Yes, we all get that, but:

UNL is getting more research $$ today because of membership in the Big 10.  But that is a main reason UNL wanted membership, not the reason the B1G wanted UNL.

The B1G didn't target Nebraska, Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, or USC, because of their research money. It's a reason the B1G is attractive to schools, but it's not why schools are attractive to the B1G.


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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2023, 10:34:02 AM »
@847badgerfan @ELA  

Hey, do we want to merge this thread with the UW/UO to the B1G by Memorial Day thread, into one big Realignment Meta Thread? They're basically discussing the same topics at this point.


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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2023, 10:54:16 AM »
A PAC 7 conference could work.  Six conference games and 6 non-conference games most of which could be cupcakes consumed at home.
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2023, 11:55:36 AM »
The main thing holding up an official announcement is they are waiting for Arizona State to make a decision.  They want to make sure that if ASU wants to join the Big 12, the Big 12 would have to take the 2 as a package.

The Arizona Board of Regents, who oversees the affairs of University of Arizona, Arizona State, and Northern Arizona University, held a vote last night to approve Arizona's move to the Big 12. Results of the vote aren't yet known, and the BoR wants to make a formal announcement to release the results.

What's holding matters up is ASU's president, who's a Pac 12 loyalist and was very onboard with Larry Scott's tenure, raising a lot of drama during last night's BoR meeting. He wants to slow-walk Arizona's exit to buy more time to win over a Pac-8 (or Pac-9 if Arizona somehow stays) deal with Apple.


https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1687434637985853442

As of this morning there's another meeting amongst university presidents and surprising momentum behind the Pac-8/9 rallying behind an Apple streaming deal. Support included from Oregon and Washington who's brief push into the Big Ten seems to have fizzled.


https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1687453350135005184

And right as I wrote that above, Oregon and Washington twist the plot:


https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687478811313451009

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2023, 12:36:11 PM »
And right as I wrote that above, Oregon and Washington twist the plot:


https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1687478811313451009
god I really hope all the Washington/Oregon talk from "insiders" is just B1G leaking crap info as a smokescreen to operate quietly in the shadows and go and poach some combo of FSU/ND/Miami/Clemson/UNC

cause idk if you guys noticed or not, but if not imma be fkn pisssssssed if they add Oregon and Washington. might be so mad I actually stop watching B1G games for awhile.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2023, 12:42:12 PM »
The B1G is so totally gonna screw this up and actually poach Oregon and Washington.  And I'm gonna laugh, heartily, out loud. :)

 

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