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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2019, 12:04:47 AM »
I do love how Cincinnati has suddenly become a "good win" this year, lol. 
Gave up 43 points to East Carolina (in regulation).
Beat USF by 3 points.
Beat Temple by 2 points.
Couldn't beat Memphis in two tries.


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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2019, 07:18:34 AM »
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2019, 07:31:37 AM »
Yeah, Cincy is the perfect OOC opponent.  You would expect most Power 5 teams with a winning record to beat them, but they can rattle off wins in their conference to make your resume look good.  It's a low risk, medium reward scenario.  Just the fact that you can somewhat debate that Cincy is better than Texas obviously makes it worth it.

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2019, 08:08:11 AM »
I do love how Cincinnati has suddenly become a "good win" this year, lol. 
Gave up 43 points to East Carolina (in regulation).
Beat USF by 3 points.
Beat Temple by 2 points.
Couldn't beat Memphis in two tries.


Big, bad Cincinnati!
So this is interesting because it seems to come back to sort of the root obsession which is a reminder there's a P5 and a G5, and in your mind, they must be most segregated. 

I mean, there's only two teams for which it matters that Cincinnati is a win. OSU and Memphis. Perhaps you're knocking OSU's win, but I'd guess it's more about Memphis. 

The beating Memphis part, that's window dressing. If they beat Memphis, you'd be complaining about App or Boise, so the point is mostly moot. Those other three are in fact bad games. That's why Cincinnati is considered as low as a top-35 team. Is that a good win? I dunno. I assume they were a good win last year too, when they went 11-2?

But in the end, 10-win teams are usually considered good enough, especially when they team's they've lost to have one loss total. The only reason it would matter is if you're in a big argument about either OSU's place in the playoff (shrug), or yelling about the pointlessness of the G5 NY6 spot. And that likely sticks around until the better teams make that not competitive football, something they currently sit at 0-5 in. 

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2019, 08:25:09 AM »
UC is probably, as noted, about the 30th best team in the country, generally able to beat teams 50 and lower, and competitive with teams like Memphis, but not at all Ohio State (or any elite G5 team).  I imagine Penn State is 3 TDs "better" than Memphis if motivation is equivalent (and it may not be).

Talent matters, unless you have a very quirky offense that team's can't adjust to on defense, and in bowl season that matters less.  But lesser talented teams often upset "better" teams in bowl games.

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2019, 09:15:27 AM »
UC is probably, as noted, about the 30th best team in the country, generally able to beat teams 50 and lower, and competitive with teams like Memphis, but not at all Ohio State (or any elite G5 team).  I imagine Penn State is 3 TDs "better" than Memphis if motivation is equivalent (and it may not be).

Talent matters, unless you have a very quirky offense that team's can't adjust to on defense, and in bowl season that matters less.  But lesser talented teams often upset "better" teams in bowl games.
Three TDs?

That might be a slight overstatement of PSU or understatement of Memphis, I think. Shoot, PSU at the end of the season was only 3 TDs better than Rutgers. Not that PSU won't win by 3 TDs because football is a quirky game, but man, the gap ain't that wide. 

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2019, 12:21:31 PM »
I'm sure the spread won't be that wide, and the margin won't be that wide, probably.  But I'm thinking PSU is 3 TDs better if this was a conference game and meant something.  I agree that might be overly generous.

 

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