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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2019, 07:24:11 PM »
OSU doesn't typically schedule an FCS game. Tressel snuck YSU on there a time or two, but beyond that the only time they have ever played one is Florida A&M, which was a last minute scramble because someone else canceled.

They have yet to schedule one in the CFP era, and there aren't any on the horizon.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2019, 07:27:56 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 16, 2019, 07:24:11 PM
OSU doesn't typically schedule an FCS game. Tressel snuck YSU on there a time or two, but beyond that the only time they have ever played one is Florida A&M, which was a last minute scramble because someone else canceled.

They have yet to schedule one in the CFP era, and there aren't any on the horizon.
Good. Then I imagine they'll support the proposal to injure the SEC ;-) 
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2019, 07:37:13 PM »
Yeah, the SEC should at least schedule a Sunbelt team as their late season tune up.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2019, 08:11:42 PM »
Teams are in their conference seasons then, that's the whole reason it's FCS teams.  A real suggestion would be to move that type of game up towards the beginning of the season when more teams are freed up.

But again...wanting the SEC to change when what they're doing is working and there are no rules in place to prevent when they're doing is silly.  Self-imposing stricter standards has predictable consequences.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2019, 08:13:37 PM »
we're talking about putting rules in place
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2019, 08:15:06 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on December 16, 2019, 07:07:20 PM
The Big 12 began play in 1996.  All the way to the end of the Big 8, with three exceptions, the conference champ played in the Orange Bowl.

Right, which is why I wrote what I did - that the OB was loose after the XII came into play.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2019, 08:23:11 PM »


Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 16, 2019, 08:11:42 PM
Teams are in their conference seasons then, that's the whole reason it's FCS teams.  A real suggestion would be to move that type of game up towards the beginning of the season when more teams are freed up.

But again...wanting the SEC to change when what they're doing is working and there are no rules in place to prevent when they're doing is silly.  Self-imposing stricter standards has predictable consequences.
The FCS teams are "in season" as well, but the ones in the South clear out their schedules in mid-November in order to make themselves available to the SEC. No reason that the Sunbelt of CUSA couldn't form a similar agreement.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2019, 08:55:06 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 16, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
I like it

serious outcry if a team like Minnesota or Baylor gets a few breaks and finishes undefeated with a FCS or two
But not so much outcry when it's Bama or Clemson.  Or OU.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2019, 09:13:26 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 16, 2019, 08:13:37 PM
we're talking about putting rules in place
I'm 90% sure there's been a rule set for 10 P5 games. Maybe it hasn't been implemented, but it's a thing, I'm sure of it.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2019, 09:26:02 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 16, 2019, 08:15:06 PM
Right, which is why I wrote what I did - that the OB was loose after the XII came into play.
Right.  The Big 12 began play the year after the "Bowl Coalition" began operation.  By the time we went through the Bowl Alliance and then into the BCS, several traditional bowl arrangements had been cast aside.  I don't know if the Big 12 even tried to extend the connection with the Orange Bowl.  It ended up aligned with the Fiesta Bowl during the BCS era.  Phoenix is about 500 miles closer (1000 miles vs. 1500), but a lot of OU fans would have preferred to have stayed with the Orange Bowl affiliation.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2019, 09:27:40 PM »
People like to crap on SEC scheduling practices, but...
in 2018, teams that scheduled ZERO P5 OOC games:
SEC (1) - Arkansas
PAC (4) - Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Wazzou
B1G (3) - Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin
XII (1) - Oklahoma St

And there's OSU's this year....but they're not alone.
In 2019:
SEC (1/2) - Arkansas, Tenn (if you don't count BYU)
PAC (1/3) - Wazzou, UW & Utah (if you don't count BYU)
B1G (5) - Illinois, Minnesota, OSU, Wisconsin, Indiana
XII (1) - Baylor



If that big, bad 9th conference game means ZERO P5 OOC opponents...then what are ya'll bitching about all the time?!??!!?
« Last Edit: December 16, 2019, 09:33:01 PM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2019, 09:32:57 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 16, 2019, 09:27:40 PM
People like to crap on SEC scheduling practices, but...
in 2018, teams that scheduled ZERO P5 OOC games:
SEC (1) - Arkansas
PAC (4) - Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Wazzou
B1G (3) - Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin
XII (1) - Oklahoma St

And there's OSU's this year....
We've been through this before.  It all stems from the SEC only scheduling 8 conference games, while the other three conferences you cite play 9.
You have reasonably enough pointed out that this works well for the SEC, and that other conferences are free to do the same.
But the flip side of that is the fans of the other conferences are also free--free to crap on the SEC's scheduling practices.
Your stats are one side of the story.  The number of SEC teams who only play 9 P5 opponents is the other side.  And then there's Arkansas only playing 8.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2019, 09:35:15 PM »
Scheduling zero P5 opponents OOC is a bigger sin than not going from 8 to 9 conference games, sorry.  When it comes to the conference games, you've got a lot of entities and opinions and powers out of your control.  
Your school's OOC schedule is on you alone.  You either decide to schedule someone that can beat you or you don't.  
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2019, 09:59:12 PM »
It all makes sense now, why the Cincinnati win has repeatedly been played up here.  OSU played no P5 OOC games, Rutgers, and Maryland.....and last-place N'Western from the B1G West.

Jesus Christ, I'd be pumping up the Bearcats as the second coming of the '95 Huskers, too!


I didn't set out to find this, but damn, it's pretty glaring, tbh.
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