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A 6-0 team is no more likely to be better than a 9-1 team.  If we know anything about anything, it's that the larger your sample, the better.  
Ohio State has exactly 1 good win right now.  Alabama has 2 better wins by much larger margins of victory.  OSU's 7-point win is roughly tied with Alabama's blowout over Auburn.  

If the Tide were to lose to Florida....their resume is still better.  
Florida's resume isn't as strong, but a win over Bama and the blowout over UGA would both be better than a 7-point win over IU.
Clemson and ND would be in the same boat with each other - wins over each other and blowing out Miami/UNC.  


We all know OSU is great.  They have the talent/eye test/etc as good as anyone, including Bama.  But their resume is crap.  It's sort of now ironic that all those times SEC schools supposedly got the eye-test benefit and now B1Gers want the same for OSU.  

In 2020, OSU is the super genius applying to work at Tesla, but only has a fast food job on its resume.

Personally, I'd leave ND out.

The committee's ranking of Clemson at #3 is, I think, acknowledgement that their loss to ND was with them short-handed and on the road.  The committee appears to have taken that into account and not significantly docked the Tigers for that.  However, they ignored the obvious next step of not fully rewarding ND for that win.  

I think that signals that the committee will dock ND HARD when they lose to Clemson in the rematch/ACCCG.  

My guesstimate:

• Bama - wins out easily, clear #1.  
• Clemson - Beats ND easily.  
• tOSU - wins out (either one or two games) gets Clemson in a CFP semi-final again.  
• aTm - because they aren't putting 2-loss UF, ISU/OU, UGA over them and the other 1-loss teams are all already behind them.  

ND falls behind not only aTm but also ISU/OU and Cincy (assuming they win out).  ISU/OU gets the final #5 spot.  

So the CFP  semi-finals would be:

• #1 Bama vs #4 aTm in the Sugar Bowl
• #2 Clemson vs #3 tOSU in the Rose Bowl

Bama wins easily.  Clemson/tOSU is another dogfight like last year.  Bama beats the Clemson/tOSU winner in part because they are probably better and in part because they'll be a LOT more rested coming off of a relatively easy semi-final while tOSU/Clemson will be beat up coming off of battling each other.  

I don't think A&M gets in over ND.  Even if Clemson beat them 55-0.

The rules are the rules.  Indiana deserves to be in the Big Ten championship game.

As for the playoffs it is doubtful they could put a 6-0 Ohio State team ahead of teams who played and won more games.  Ohio State’s best win is over Indiana.  Not a great resume.  

The Big Ten F’d itself when it canceled its 10 game season early on.

Cheers!

The rules are the rules.  Indiana deserves to be in the Big Ten championship game.

As for the playoffs it is doubtful they could put a 6-0 Ohio State team ahead of teams who played and won more games.  Ohio State’s best win is over Indiana.  Not a great resume. 

The Big Ten F’d itself when it canceled its 10 game season early on.

Cheers!

Thanks but nobody asked for the "I'm a Michigan fan and I hate Ohio State" hot take.  

Look, if you are going to troll at least put some effort into it.  

The great thing about this board is that we generally avoid this kind of blind homerism/haterism that any of us could find at MGOBLUE or in the inverse at Bucknuts.  

Your statement that "Indiana deserves to be in the CG" gives away your trolling.  There is a very credible argument for IU to go but it obviously is NOT this.  The team that deserves to go is the best team in the B1G-E.  It is manifestly obvious that the best team in the B1G-E is the Ohio State University.  Every reasonably neutral observer knows this.  Plenty of non-tOSU fans such as Barry Alvarez, the Detroit Free Press, and many others have acknowledged this.  

If Indiana goes to the B1GCG it will be because of the operation of a technicality in the rules, not because they deserve to go.  

The reasonable and credible argument in favor of IU (assuming tOSU doesn't find an opponent for this weekend) is that it would be unfair to change the rules mid-stream.  Further, it reeks of favoritism to change the rules to the advantage of one of the Helmets and the disadvantage of one of the non-helmets.  

The reasonable and credible argument in favor of tOSU (again assuming tOSU doesn't find an opponent for this weekend) is that the fundamental purpose of the rules is to put the best team in the CG.  If the rules as written are going to fail at that task, then the rules have failed at their fundamental purpose and they are bad rules that should be changed such that the fundamental purpose can be achieved.  

Thanks but nobody asked for the "I'm a Michigan fan and I hate Ohio State" hot take. 

Look, if you are going to troll at least put some effort into it. 

The great thing about this board is that we generally avoid this kind of blind homerism/haterism that any of us could find at MGOBLUE or in the inverse at Bucknuts. 

Your statement that "Indiana deserves to be in the CG" gives away your trolling.  There is a very credible argument for IU to go but it obviously is NOT this.  The team that deserves to go is the best team in the B1G-E.  It is manifestly obvious that the best team in the B1G-E is the Ohio State University.  Every reasonably neutral observer knows this.  Plenty of non-tOSU fans such as Barry Alvarez, the Detroit Free Press, and many others have acknowledged this. 

If Indiana goes to the B1GCG it will be because of the operation of a technicality in the rules, not because they deserve to go. 

The reasonable and credible argument in favor of IU (assuming tOSU doesn't find an opponent for this weekend) is that it would be unfair to change the rules mid-stream.  Further, it reeks of favoritism to change the rules to the advantage of one of the Helmets and the disadvantage of one of the non-helmets. 

The reasonable and credible argument in favor of tOSU (again assuming tOSU doesn't find an opponent for this weekend) is that the fundamental purpose of the rules is to put the best team in the CG.  If the rules as written are going to fail at that task, then the rules have failed at their fundamental purpose and they are bad rules that should be changed such that the fundamental purpose can be achieved. 

Damn Medina.  You are one of the best posters here by far because you use and provide so much useful data.  But this post here is strictly a narrative and it may be your best post ever!

I wouldn’t be changing the rules mid-stream.  It would be changing them at the end because some don’t like the result.