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Topic: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?

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MaximumSam

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #378 on: August 12, 2024, 06:19:53 PM »
I can’t have a debate with someone who is so separated from the actual facts.  You truly are delusional.  I can’t even believe you wrote what you just wrote. 

I’ll just take your word for it. The torrid spending and money printing that went on during the Biden ministration and clearly caused inflation was really really the fault of the person before him.  Struggling employment after Covid was because of Donald Trump not because of the government handouts.  OK, you win  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your entire premise is that there is but one single cause of inflation. Good luck with that.

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #379 on: August 12, 2024, 06:21:11 PM »
I think this time y'all are really gonna convince one another!


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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #380 on: August 12, 2024, 06:21:37 PM »
Your entire premise is that there is but one single cause of inflation. Good luck with that.
If you read up thread, you’ll see the exact opposite is true. Having a deep understanding and economics there are multiple factors involved, which I stated way of thread.  


Who’s claiming there is a single cause and blaming it on some thing that’s not even related and an administration that’s been gone for a long time. 
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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #381 on: August 12, 2024, 06:22:21 PM »
This is basic economics and can't be escaped by wishing it away. I will say the Dems didn't really do anything to address the issue, and Congress was mostly helpless on the issue despite a clear need, though that is typical of them these days.
Sam, you're off on this one. While a lack of immigration might lead to wage growth, which might lead to inflation, I don't think that's really the case here. Especially with the very high immigration that we've seen post-Trump. 

But the inflation we see is a global phenomenon, not a domestic one. If it was caused by a lack of US immigration, wouldn't all those countries who were flush with workers see their prices be stable? After all, their people weren't trying to immigrate here, right? 

The truth (to my basic economics mind) is that massive fiscal stimulus caused a situation where a lot of new dollars were chasing an equivalent--or due to supply chain issues, a smaller--basket of goods and services. It's monetarily-driven. 

However, unlike HB I'm not just going to say this is a Biden or Democrat problem. Trump was already starting fiscal stimulus while still in office--likely to try to get people to vote for him. GWB was starting fiscal stimulus when the Great Recession hit, as well as a few times before that.

So I don't think it's partisan. It's what governments do when the excrement impacts the air circulation device. 

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« Reply #382 on: August 12, 2024, 06:22:30 PM »
I think this time y'all are really gonna convince one another!


Sorry- I should just resist when somebody who is politically blind post something so ridiculous. You’re right it isn’t even worth my time.
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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #383 on: August 12, 2024, 06:23:03 PM »
you fellas are typical political arguers 

nothing new here

"It's the other side's fault"
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« Reply #384 on: August 12, 2024, 06:23:20 PM »
Sorry- I should just resist when somebody who is politically blind post something so ridiculous. You’re right it isn’t even worth my time.
Most online political fights are not. But man they get us going. 

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #385 on: August 12, 2024, 06:24:30 PM »
Sam, you're off on this one. While a lack of immigration might lead to wage growth, which might lead to inflation, I don't think that's really the case here. Especially with the very high immigration that we've seen post-Trump.

But the inflation we see is a global phenomenon, not a domestic one. If it was caused by a lack of US immigration, wouldn't all those countries who were flush with workers see their prices be stable? After all, their people weren't trying to immigrate here, right?

The truth (to my basic economics mind) is that massive fiscal stimulus caused a situation where a lot of new dollars were chasing an equivalent--or due to supply chain issues, a smaller--basket of goods and services. It's monetarily-driven.

However, unlike HB I'm not just going to say this is a Biden or Democrat problem. Trump was already starting fiscal stimulus while still in office--likely to try to get people to vote for him. GWB was starting fiscal stimulus when the Great Recession hit, as well as a few times before that.

So I don't think it's partisan. It's what governments do when the excrement impacts the air circulation device.
Well, if you read up thread a little bit, you will see that that is not at all what I am saying.

but what I am saying is that the fiscal policy of the current administration was a substantial contributor to the acceleration of inflation.

as I have said numerous times, neither party gets a pass on this.  But they don’t get a pass when they do it.
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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #386 on: August 12, 2024, 06:25:12 PM »
you fellas are typical political arguers

nothing new here

"It's the other side's fault"
That’s bull.  That is not my position.   Read up before you say crap like that. 
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« Reply #387 on: August 12, 2024, 06:28:54 PM »
;)
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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #388 on: August 12, 2024, 07:11:01 PM »
I blame the egg lobby. 

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #389 on: August 12, 2024, 08:03:36 PM »
I think this time y'all are really gonna convince one another!


Truth finds a way brother. People used to say beans didn't belong in chili, but they are much quieter now.

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #390 on: August 12, 2024, 08:13:53 PM »
I blame the egg lobby.
I blame eggs themselves. Slackers. 

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Re: How do you think the US economy is doing right now?
« Reply #391 on: August 12, 2024, 08:26:49 PM »
Truth finds a way brother. People used to say beans didn't belong in chili, but they are much quieter now.
Negatory there, little brother.  That's a nil on the beanos.

 

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