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Topic: How different is 2021 shaping up to be

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utee94

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 09:38:34 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on December 03, 2021, 07:58:45 AM
I think the whole playoff idea is flawed.  Too much luck and randomness involved in one game outcomes between two closely matched teams.  And what is the point of having games like BYU vs. Georgia in a 12 team playoff?  I still like the old bowl games better.

Amen, brutha.
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 03:44:37 PM »
Good we can go back to the old conference alignments while were at it
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2021, 03:58:14 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 03, 2021, 03:44:37 PM
Good we can go back to the old conference alignments while were at it
What old conference alignments? 

They have never been consistent at any point, ever. 
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2021, 05:12:08 PM »
Nubbz could easily pick a past season

so could I
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2021, 06:38:13 PM »
These are chronological.....

The Big Ten's iterations:
23 years of being 10 teams
10 years of being 9 teams
40 years of being 10 teams
21 years of being 11 teams
3 years of being 12 teams
7 years of being 14 teams
.
The SEC's iterations:
32 years of being 12 teams
2 years of being 11 teams
24 years of being 10 teams
21 years of being 12 teams
9 years of being 14 teams
.
The PAC's iterations (excluding some weirdness around 1960):
22 years of being 10 teams
9 years of being 9 teams
19 years of being 8 teams
33 years of being 10 teams
10 years of being 12 teams
.
Big 8/12 iterations:
19 years of being 6 teams
11 years of being 7 teams
38 years of being 8 teams
14 years of being 12 teams
10 years of being 10 teams
.
ACC iterations:
18 years of being 8 teams
12 years of being 7 teams
8 years of being 8 teams
13 years of being 9 teams
1 year of being 11 teams
8 years of being 12 teams
7 years of being 14 teams
.
SWC iterations:
31 years of being 7 teams
20 years of being 8 teams
20 years of being 9 teams
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I figure the bolded ones are the "golden age" where we all fondly remember college football being perfect. 
The B1G with MSU, the SEC pre-divisions, the PAC-10 w/ the Arizona schools, the original Big 8, the SWC w/ Houston, and the ACC w/ Florida St
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2021, 06:43:23 PM »
There is not a single season that had all of those alignments simultaneously. 
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2021, 06:43:42 PM »
I've said it before, but college football really benefited by having numerous powerful independent programs to flesh out schedules and fill in quality bowl games.

Once we started having strict conference tie-ins and having Louisville in the Orange Bowl or Texas in the Sugar, it was all over.  
Thanks to the 1987 NC matchup of Miami vs Penn St, we had a short window of 5 "big" bowls instead of 4. 

I posit the 5 years before SEC expansion in 1992 (1990 off the field) was the best era of college football.  
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2021, 06:44:40 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 03, 2021, 06:43:23 PM
There is not a single season that had those alignments. 
Correct, but the window I specified is missing only the ACC w/ FSU.  All the rest are included there.

The bold parts are just what we think of a conference being back when it was good.  I didn't mean they all existed at the same time.
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2021, 06:46:22 PM »
Pretty convenient that the CFB alignment peaked right around the time you started watching. 
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2021, 06:56:01 PM »
it's pretty simple, just put me in charge

I'll fix it.

I'll work out the conferences and then the schedules for all P5 teams for the 2022 season

just keep ABC/ESPN, CBS, NBC, FOX out of my hair until the schedules are set.  They can bid for the rights to games when that is finished.

there will be plenty of money for everyone in the end
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2021, 06:58:14 PM »
Folks our age in 1990 probably wrinkled their nose at Houston and the Arizona twins being in big boy Conferences. 

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2021, 07:01:45 PM »
I didn't mind the Arizona Twins, but the Cougars weren't worthy
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2021, 07:08:52 PM »
The Arizona twins weren't even in the same time zone as the Pac 8. 

They would have been the Rutgers and Maryland of their day. 
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2021, 07:40:14 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 03, 2021, 06:46:22 PM
Pretty convenient that the CFB alignment peaked right around the time you started watching.
Uhhh....for our generation, yes.  That's the point.  Our general consensus would probably be the bolded ones.
You're honestly blinded by your hatred of me that you can't even post a genuine comment here.  How sad for you.
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