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medinabuckeye1

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How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« on: December 02, 2021, 05:04:29 PM »
The CFP era so far of 2014-2020 was dominated by Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma in that order.  

In the first seven years of the CFP those four teams have:

  • 20 of the 28 CFP appearances 71.4%:  The other eight were two by ND and one each by LSU, UGA, Ore, FSU, MSU, and Wash.  
  • 11 of the 14 CFP semi-final wins 78.6%:  The other three were one each by LSU, UGA, and Ore
  • 6 of the 7 Championships 85.7%:  The other one was LSU


From 2014 to 2020 those four teams took up at least two of the four CFP spots each year:
  • 2 in 2014 (Bama, tOSU)
  • 3 in 2015 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
  • 3 in 2016 (Bama, Clemson, tOSU)
  • 3 in 2017 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
  • 3 in 2018 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
  • 3 in 2019 (Clemson, tOSU, OU)
  • 3 in 2020 (Bama, Clemson, tOSU)

This year first Clemson then tOSU and OU eliminated themselves from CFP contention and Bama is hanging on by a thread (though they do control their own destiny).  At most one of the four will appear in the CFP this year.  We haven't seen less than three since 2014 and we've never seen a CFP with less than two.  We are about to see one with one or even possibly zero.  


Appearances:
  • 6 Bama
  • tie 6 Clemson
  • 4 tOSU
  • tie 4 OU
  • 2 ND
  • 1 LSU
  • 1 UGA
  • 1 ORE
  • 1 FSU
  • 1 MSU
  • 1 Wash
Semi-final wins:
  • 5 Bama
  • 4 Clemson
  • 2 tOSU
  • 1 LSU
  • 1 UGA
  • 1 ORE
Championships:
  • 3 Bama
  • 2 Clemson
  • 1 tOSU
  • tie 1 LSU

Of this years remaining contenders, other than Bama only UGA even has so much as a prior appearance.  


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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2021, 05:06:15 PM »
2021 is just the beginning. They will be going to a 12 team playoff in the very near future.

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2021, 05:43:35 PM »
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2021, 06:50:45 PM »
It would be neat to see three new teams in the playoff, I think, if we presume UGA is a lock.

We also had full stadia and no evidence COVID was sparked by that.

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2021, 07:55:53 PM »
Hey I thought with the COVID rules and the top teams losing so many guys, we might see a bit more different season. This blind squirrel may have found that nut.

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 08:13:15 PM »
How about the CFP adopt the longtime "no repeats" rule the B1G had, in terms of going to the Rose Bowl?
If you make the playoff, you're ineligible for the following season.  

Those upper-echelon teams would have to still try hard and keep their position in order to make it again the following year.  
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 08:24:34 PM »
2021 is just the beginning. They will be going to a 12 team playoff in the very near future.
And it will fail,NFL Bound Talent will tell the establishment nice knowing you.Oh you can still have your  games but there will be big holes in once robust rosters
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2021, 08:37:28 PM »
And it will fail,NFL Bound Talent will tell the establishment nice knowing you.Oh you can still have your  games but there will be big holes in once robust rosters
huh? how will it fail? if anything you'll see more potential NFL draft pick players actually play. what happens now? top players only play in CCG's and then if they happen to be on one of the 4 teams that make the playoff. the other bowl games- kids that have 1st/2nd rd grades just sit out now to protect their nfl draft status.

Go to 12 games- you'll have NFL prospects from the top 12 teams actually playing- which is better than NFL prospects from only 4 teams playing.

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2021, 08:46:38 PM »
How about the CFP adopt the longtime "no repeats" rule the B1G had, in terms of going to the Rose Bowl?
If you make the playoff, you're ineligible for the following season. 

Those upper-echelon teams would have to still try hard and keep their position in order to make it again the following year. 
run that by the SEC
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2021, 08:51:56 PM »
huh? how will it fail? if anything you'll see more potential NFL draft pick players actually play. what happens now? top players only play in CCG's and then if they happen to be on one of the 4 teams that make the playoff. the other bowl games- kids that have 1st/2nd rd grades just sit out now to protect their nfl draft status.

Go to 12 games- you'll have NFL prospects from the top 12 teams actually playing- which is better than NFL prospects from only 4 teams playing.
Tell it to Jaylon Smith or Jake Butt off the top of my head.Bull crap agents,friends,family would advise differently.Keep it were it's at lot of kids have sat to protect their draft stock already and still go in the 1st round.Attempts at extending the season will only  enhance injury chances
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2021, 07:52:24 AM »
I'd  guess many solid first rounders could opt out, especially backs on teams without the first round bye.  Put Ole Miss in the playoff, does Matt Corrale play?  or drop?

I would advice him to drop out.  Zero upside and a lot of down.

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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2021, 07:58:45 AM »
I think the whole playoff idea is flawed.  Too much luck and randomness involved in one game outcomes between two closely matched teams.  And what is the point of having games like BYU vs. Georgia in a 12 team playoff?  I still like the old bowl games better.
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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2021, 08:02:35 AM »
There will always be a plus one team left out that complains.  Fifth, ninth, 13th, whatever, it's unfair.

This year we might not have even four teams that look to be playoff caliber as we normally think of it.


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Re: How different is 2021 shaping up to be
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2021, 09:34:31 AM »
They don't opt out of the playoffs now, but it will magically become a huge problem if they adopt a playoff format that you don't like? 

Sound reasoning. 
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