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Topic: How Cheap Things *Used* to be

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #84 on: Today at 07:46:20 AM »
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I paint with a broad brush, yet some of you cling on to the single example I pick out of the lineup like a pitbull, lol.

The larger point isn't that successful corporations are evil for being successful, nor that they never ebb and flow in their successes.  It's that once they succeed in a snapshot of time, they want to hit the pause button, give themselves all of the advantages (diving into the political realm - gasp), and set up obstacles for anyone else in their industry to succeed as well.  Often unethically.  Nothing new there, but they're better at it now and can do it in such volume now, thanks to citizen's united. 
I don't bring that up to be political, we can just call it a SCOTUS ruling and leave the politics out of it. 
The ruling guaranteed a continuation and greater severity of $$$ = influence.

Nothing can improve without that ruling being overturned.  They should rename it Marx's Second Wind. 
Broad brush indeed. 

when the government sticks it nose way too far into the private sector ( businesses)- history tells us it universally causes problems and escalating costs for consumers.  Sadly- it is usually a product of political influence
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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #85 on: Today at 09:33:07 AM »
Corporate Contributions to Outside Groups • OpenSecrets

This is a pretty good site for tracking corporate contributions to politics.  A perusal will note that most publically traded companies don't engage in this tactic.  Their employees of course may, but companies don't want to get labeled right or left if they sell to the public, it's bad for business.  I'd also note that labor unions are corporations.

At any rate, I consider any topic where 95% of one side thinks it's terrible and 90% of the other side doesn't care of thinks it's fine is political.

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« Reply #86 on: Today at 10:21:11 AM »
I have one choice within 7 miles.

therefore, I like it
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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #87 on: Today at 10:29:21 AM »
Are you sure? I think that one of the reasons Subway has been lagging has been due to the rise of Jersey Mike's, Jimmy John's, and Which Wich. Only the first and third are local for me, but I do find that they offer a more compelling product at similar prices to Subway. 

Quizno's was a good alternative for me for a while.  I don't know if there aren't around here, and I haven't been lately, so I don't know if they're still good.

Or open.  

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« Reply #88 on: Today at 10:31:49 AM »
Yikes....according to Google's AI (sus), there are between 130 and 150 Quiznos nationwide, a sharp decline from their peak in 2007 when they had about 4700 locations nationwide.  

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« Reply #89 on: Today at 10:35:22 AM »
Subway sucks.  So does jimmy Johns.

Firehouse Subs is the best of these sandwich chains, and it's not particularly close.

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« Reply #90 on: Today at 10:38:26 AM »
Corporate Contributions to Outside Groups • OpenSecrets

This is a pretty good site for tracking corporate contributions to politics.  A perusal will note that most publically traded companies don't engage in this tactic.  Their employees of course may, but companies don't want to get labeled right or left if they sell to the public, it's bad for business.  I'd also note that labor unions are corporations.

At any rate, I consider any topic where 95% of one side thinks it's terrible and 90% of the other side doesn't care of thinks it's fine is political.

They may not contribute directly to any political cause, but the marketing and advertising is often very political.

See this very month for example.....are all the corporate logos rainbow colored yet?  Some of that my be waning lately, not sure.

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« Reply #91 on: Today at 10:40:53 AM »
The major sandwich chains I can name that have locations within 10 miles of me are:

Subway, Quizno's, Jersey Mike's, Jimmy John's, Which Wich, Potbelly, Firehouse Subs, Schlotzky's.

I've eaten at all of these at one time or another, though I doubt I've been to any of them within the last year.  Maybe Schlotzky's, my son really likes those, but now that he is driving, and working, he can go get that any time he wants all on his own.

I've also heard of Blimpies but there are none in Austin and I've never been to one.

There are two Austin-based sandwich shops that I eat at a lot more regularly, Thundercloud Subs and Delaware Subs.  They're much higher quality than the national chains.  

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #92 on: Today at 10:47:01 AM »
A company that deals with the public is better off not appearing to have a side.

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« Reply #93 on: Today at 10:52:51 AM »
A company that deals with the public is better off not appearing to have a side.

Conventional wisdom says so, but again, there are endless examples of companies operating otherwise.

I don't really care to debate it, but those are the facts.

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #94 on: Today at 10:54:08 AM »
There are two Austin-based sandwich shops that I eat at a lot more regularly, Thundercloud Subs and Delaware Subs.  They're much higher quality than the national chains. 


I don't know about Delaware Subs but I can tell somebody sumthin' 'bout Thundercloud.  @jgvol might be right that Firehouse is the best of the chains, but it can't hold Thundercloud's jock strap.  I miss that place.  

There is a mom-and-pop Italian place not far from me (run by a Chinese family, go figure) that's really good, and I'm a fan of their meatball subs.  Probably not Thundercloud good, but incalculably better than Subway.  

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #95 on: Today at 11:03:37 AM »
We had a Which Wich walking distance from my office pre-COVID that I'd occasionally frequent for lunch. I thought they were really good, and a lot better than Subway. 

Seems COVID killed that location, because once we started doing return to office, I walked over there hungry one day and was disappointed to realize it was gone. It makes sense because that shopping plaza does heavy business from our office park, and I'm sure that dried up hard in 2020. We also lost a pretty good sit-down burger joint in that plaza as well. 

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #96 on: Today at 11:26:13 AM »
I've never heard of Which Wich.  

We used to have Blimpie --- a bread sandwich.  Other bread sandwiches --- Subway, and Jimmy Johns.

Like MDT, at Subway, I always went for the meatball sub, because it was the only offering that I could actually taste something besides bread, and old, wilted shredded lettuce.

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Re: How Cheap Things *Used* to be
« Reply #97 on: Today at 11:33:29 AM »
There is a WW not to far from us, one of the few chains we have, I never tried it.  There is a Subway also which seems empty when we pass by (never tried it either).  We have a Chipotle and a Panera near us, they are so so, almost never eat there.  There is an STK which is a small chain, steak house, it's ... not great IMHO, expensive and just kinda OK.  

 

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