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Topic: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #182 on: September 05, 2021, 10:36:09 AM »
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #183 on: September 05, 2021, 10:52:59 AM »
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #184 on: September 05, 2021, 11:11:32 AM »
I glanced at the ESPN FPI rankings just now, Clemson still at 2, which I don't get, at all.

UGA still at 5, which is OK with me given these don't matter, I'm not sure of the basis for this stuff, getting clicks maybe.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #185 on: September 05, 2021, 11:41:17 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 05, 2021, 11:11:32 AM
I glanced at the ESPN FPI rankings just now, Clemson still at 2, which I don't get, at all.

UGA still at 5, which is OK with me given these don't matter, I'm not sure of the basis for this stuff, getting clicks maybe.
Is it updated?
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #186 on: September 05, 2021, 11:51:54 AM »
College football Power Rankings for Week 1 (espn.com)

They have power rankings also I see, per above.  Then they have FPI below, which is updated.

2021 College Football Power Index | ESPN

Meh.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #187 on: September 05, 2021, 11:59:55 AM »
Yeah, the FPI is going to need a lot more data for it to mean much.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #188 on: September 05, 2021, 01:22:08 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 05, 2021, 11:51:54 AM
College football Power Rankings for Week 1 (espn.com)

They have power rankings also I see, per above.  Then they have FPI below, which is updated.

2021 College Football Power Index | ESPN

Meh.
Rankings often don't move much early. And they sometimes don't move if games are certain kinds of close. 

SP+ uses something close to yards per play, which UGA won 4.2-3. But in terms of scoring, a Pick 6 is all kinds of fluky, and that really was the main difference score-wise. 
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #189 on: September 05, 2021, 01:27:03 PM »
The FPI is an algorithm. It is still using lots of preseason data, but a close game against a top five team is unlikely to change much. Oklahoma dropped a spot, because a close game against a not top 25 game will change things a bit.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #190 on: September 05, 2021, 01:37:16 PM »
I knew FPI is basically a computer "poll" and projects chances of winning the NC etc.  I also am pretty sure sports sites contrive as many poll types as possible for clicks.

Whether your team is 3 or 8 or 15 at this point means little beyond the obvious.  But they gotta entertain.

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #191 on: September 05, 2021, 01:46:22 PM »
Unseen, unheard of, and unlamented, NIU apparently edged Georgia Tech, which was supposedly getting better.

I realize NIU has pretty decent teams at times.

Instant replay: Main takeaways from NIU’s 22-21 win at Georgia Tech – Shaw Local

The ACC really took it on the chin this past week.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #192 on: September 05, 2021, 02:29:46 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 05, 2021, 01:46:22 PM
Unseen, unheard of, and unlamented, NIU apparently edged Georgia Tech, which was supposedly getting better.

I realize NIU has pretty decent teams at times.

Instant replay: Main takeaways from NIU’s 22-21 win at Georgia Tech – Shaw Local

The ACC really took it on the chin this past week.
The GT experiment was a certain kind of popular one. I was and am hesitant about its chances.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #193 on: September 05, 2021, 02:32:51 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 05, 2021, 01:37:16 PM
I knew FPI is basically a computer "poll" and projects chances of winning the NC etc.  I also am pretty sure sports sites contrive as many poll types as possible for clicks.

Whether your team is 3 or 8 or 15 at this point means little beyond the obvious.  But they gotta entertain.


It's not really a "poll." It's a power rating akin to those for gambling purposes. They can be useful or interesting depending on what you're looking at 

That said, anything that ranks things is good for the clicks business. And a ranking that doesn't immediately respond to a game's outcome is going to drive a lot of irrational people to boost business (even if the ranking isn't about responding to what just happened). 
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #194 on: September 05, 2021, 03:25:43 PM »
We talk about "computer polls" which are not polls but results from some algorithm.  We used to talk about them more than now.

To me, it's a "computer poll", in quotes.

GIGO.

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #195 on: September 05, 2021, 04:32:01 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 05, 2021, 03:25:43 PM
We talk about "computer polls" which are not polls but results from some algorithm.  We used to talk about them more than now.

To me, it's a "computer poll", in quotes.

GIGO.


In this case, what is the GO?
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