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Topic: Have you noticed climate change where you live?

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Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« on: August 15, 2023, 01:55:57 PM »
Presume you had never heard of climate change, it's just your own perception.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2023, 02:45:32 PM »
I've not lived here long enough to say. It's hot in the summer and very moderate in the winter.

Now, back North...

Did not notice much in the way of changes.
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2023, 02:50:20 PM »
Hard to say. Summer is always hot,hot, hot and humid here in SE Texas. Winters seem colder some years, very mild the next. Used to hardly ever freeze, now it seems to get to 20 deg every year. 

I can’t tell about summer, because we NEVER have a mild summer, and I’m older. 

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2023, 03:47:39 PM »
I mean, THIS summer is the hottest on record, where I live.

But last summer wasn't, nor the summer before that.  So it's not like there's a trend where it's getting linearly hotter with each passing year.  Before 2023, I think you have to go back to 2011 to find a summer that is comparatively hot.  And in 1980, they made t-shirts down here in Texico that said:



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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2023, 03:57:46 PM »
I lean towards warmer, but it's hard to tell. Orange County has a lot of microclimates depending on how far you are from the ocean and what's between you and the ocean... And I've lived in a bunch of them over the last 22 years lol:


  • Lake Forest -- actually very close to where I live now. 
  • Irvine #1 -- close to 405 freeway meaning a bit closer to ocean and not much between
  • Irvine #2 -- close to 5 freeway so ~5 miles farther from the ocean
  • <moved to GA for 2 years>
  • Dana Point -- Had a 1 mi walk to the ocean, absolutely gorgeous weather
  • Laguna Niguel -- Not far as the crow flies from the water, but with foothills between 
  • Laguna Hills -- Slightly farther from the water, hills between
  • Mission Viejo -- 5 mi farther inland definitely starting to feel the heat being farther away

I recall some isolated really hot weeks in summer ~20 years ago here. Over the last few years being in Mission Viejo, it seems like that mid-July->end-Aug tends to be more sustained heat each year. But oddly this year we got a lot of heat early and it's been more temperate since... Last year I think August was mostly highs in the mid-high 90s, it's been a lot of 80s over the last week or two. 


Those last two comprise a stretch from the end of 2010 until now, so you'd think that's a decent sample size... But Mission Viejo is hotter than Laguna Hills, so halfway through I reset the sample.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2023, 05:16:32 PM »
I checked, "Yes." However, I would add, we are coming off a late arriving spring, and a mild summer, I would clarify my yes, as follows: "Yes, but so not so much in 2023." I notice the extremes more than warming.

We had a dam breach 10-miles south of here that drained all the water out of a recreational lake in 2010. Lake Delhi - We Will Be Back - Trailer - YouTube It was rather spectacular if you care to view the video.

And, 2010 wasn't the only year with excessive precipitation. We get drought years occasionally, but you really notice when excessive precipitation sets in as it did in 1993, and 2010, and a few other years close to 2010 there was extensive flooding locally because the office building I opened my law practice in in 1991, flooded 2x circa 2008-2012, and the building was torn down. It never took flood water in the years 1991 through 1999 that I practiced there, although it came close.

Flood zone maps in our community of 5,000 were redrawn circa 2013. I would guess 40% or more of this town is now in a 500-year or 100-year flood plain (fortunately the 500-year ends just across the street in the backyards of my neighbors.). Anyone getting a mortgage loan in the 500-year flood plain will likely have to purchase flood insurance.

We have had three winters the past 20-years in which temperatures ranged between -28F and -37F. I take notice of extremes of temperatures some winters, because my peach trees die at about -28F, or maybe at -24F they almost die, and have to be brought down.

Extreme low temperatures and major precipitation events engrain in my memory more than the heat.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2023, 07:56:44 PM »
I mean, THIS summer is the hottest on record, where I live.

But last summer wasn't, nor the summer before that.  So it's not like there's a trend where it's getting linearly hotter with each passing year.  Before 2023, I think you have to go back to 2011 to find a summer that is comparatively hot.  And in 1980, they made t-shirts down here in Texico that said:



I looked it up and here in Houston is no where near the hottest on record but it is damn hot






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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2023, 08:08:23 PM »
Hmm. That’s a good question. My perception is that winters here are milder than they used to be.  I have no hard data to back that up and could be completely wrong but it seems that way.

I seem to remember getting more snow as a kid.  FWIW, a lot of people I bring that up to anecdotally seem to agree.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2023, 08:58:35 PM »
My only climate change observation is that tornado alley is moving further east, in my 45+ years, not sure of that means it's expanding east only or expanding as in tornado alley is wider in totality.  

I've noted all of the fawning over heat waves but this is solely a south/sw occurrence.   There is nothing hot about the summer in the upper Midwest and NE this year.   Using 90 degrees as a proxy for a market which peaks put around a average high of 86, we will likely not approach a normal summer of 20 days at or above 90.  If someone wants to shove a hot summer in Texas in my face. I give you the entire upper Midwest and Northeast. 

I would like for some honest discussion about the benefits of warming considering deaths due to cold weather easily exceed deaths due to heat across the globe annually.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2023, 09:50:10 PM »
On Chicago and Midwest, the extremely hot summers with the super high 100 degree peak days same more rare than than the 80's and 90's

Working off memory, here were extremely hot summers in 83, 88, 95, and 99, but since then only 2012 sticks out.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2023, 10:20:14 PM »
Yes.  83, 88, 95 and 12 were the standouts here too. 1988 was smokin along with 2012, top 10 all time for Indy.  We're running out of days of summer but it appears 2023 may be the coolest summer in 19 years in Indy, but thats not clickbait, just weather.   Like most of the US, 1930s are such an outlier in all time high temps in Indy.  7 of the hottest 11 summers took place between 1930 and 1941 in Indy.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2023, 10:49:15 PM »
Not a fan of this thread.
"Hey everybody, got any anecdotal evidence?"  I get it, it's harmless.  But still.

The statistics tell us everything we need to know.  
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2023, 10:53:58 PM »
 Winters seem colder some years, very mild the next. Used to hardly ever freeze, now it seems to get to 20 deg every year.
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2023, 10:56:23 PM »
 7 of the hottest 11 summers took place between 1930 and 1941 in Indy.
I know 7 of the snowiest winters here have taken place from '95- 2011 :111:
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